Appology from Natalie/Alias56

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SydneyandVaughn said:
Okay... I completely understand why so many people are so angry at Natalie, yet I don't see how those of you could say certain things about this.  I was re-reading posts, and saw that someone wrote about how so many people wasted thoughts and prayers on her.  Don't  you realize that no prayer is ever wasted?  And if anything, Natalie needs your prayers.  Everyone was praying for her healing, and while she didn't need physical healing as we all thought, she certainly needs mental healing.  I honestly don't get angry, and I feel nothing but extreme sorrow that she would tell stories like this.  I feel nothing but pain that her mind is poluted and her sense of humor is so twisted.

So, yes, she did a horrific thing, broke our hearts (through her "apparent" death), and betrayed us all.  However, as a Christian, I believe that by treating those who have done horrible things with kindness, often is the most appropriate punishment of all.  Whether you believe in Jesus or not, you have to admit his teachings were correct.  He once said, "He among you who is free of sin shall be the first to cast the stone."  All of us have made mistakes (some much worse than others), and we are in no position to condemn Natalie.  To say, "Burn in hell," accomplishes nothing.  We are not to judge, but to assume that she will accept her punishment in due time.  No one should have the right to say that she is not sorry.  She may very well be, although she may think this is funny.  Yet, in due time, she will feel the pain and suffer the consequences.  As I said before, I believe that kindness, sympathy, and prayer are the only options we have. 

How would you feel if you betrayed and lied to those who loved you?  You may feel that they deserve it.  What would you do then, if instead of hating you (as they would be expected to), they treated you with love?  My first boyfriend was abusive verbally to me.  Because I wouldn't do certain things that he wanted me to, he would be very cruel.  He told me many times that he hated me, he never wanted to see me again.  He said "F*** you," and "Burn in hell."  You know what my response was?  "I love you."  He was my friend before a boyfriend, and I did love him.  In his better moods, he admitted how much he just wanted me to lose my temper and not talk to him.  He told me how much it hurt him to know that I still cared.  To treat him with kindness made him truly realize how cruel he was.

Jesus said, "Thou shalt heap burning coals on his head with your kindness."  I believe that it is true.  So, while so many of you feel intense hatred toward Natalie, I merely ask you to think again.  Hatred helps nothing.  Love can solve all problems, and while they may not be solved as quickly as we would like, they will be solved in time.  Natalie will have to live with this burden on her shoulders for the rest of her life.  That, in my opinion, is the worst punishment.

Natalie, I am still praying for you.  While you may not need it physically, you need the prayers emotionally and spiritually.  May you truly be sorry and never hurt people again.  None of us are in any position to judge you.  You have made some incredibly horrible decisions, and you will have to pay for them.  May your heart be changed and I hope one day you will find true happiness.  God bless you, Natalie.
I kind of agree with this.

I know that many of you are hurt by this. I trusted Nat too. We never became close friends, but I believed everything she said. I thought she was sick. I thought she was dying. I thought that she had been abused. I believed all of her lies. And to find out that they were lies, nothing more, I understand why everyone is so angered by this.

But why did she do it? To get attention. We gave her attention. Attention that she obviously needed. She did it the wrong way. But hating her won't help her. Before you found out that she was lying, you considred her a friend. I know that she told BIG lies, lies that hit close to home for some of you, but didn't you feel sorry for her when you thought it was the truth? Now we know who Nat really is. A liar, to say the least. But how is wishing her the worst going to help? It's just going to bring out more negative feelings.

I know most of us, maybe even all of us, have never told lies as big as Nat did. But don't we wish to be forgiven when we do tell small lies?

Put yourself in Natalie's spot. If you told lies as big as Nat did (which I'm sure we won't ever), there is obviously something wrong with you. Maybe you're mentally ill, traumatized, or just plain sick. But you're only human. You'd want to be forgiven. You wouldn't want your former friends to hope you go to hell. You only wish that things will get better.

So Natalie does need prayer. We need prayer. And if you're not religious, you should still know that hatred won't do humanity any good.
 
SydB_JenG said:
Alias_Gay said:
SydB_JenG said:
If I could...I would high five you right now Tommy!! GRR!! Natalie!! You can burn in hell!
I think that was way out of line, Mo ... I know you are angry, but yes, I know how you feel ... and yes, I would High-5 Tommy too ... ;)
Out of Line??? Out of Line???? Are you kidding ME!! I am not out of line...someone on here (i wont say their name) wanted to kill themselves that day she died!! AND NOW WE FIND OUT SHE HIRED SOMEONE TO DO THAT!! Why the hell would she do that!! Its sick and twisted...And I would consider her a murder if that certain someone had killed themselves...burning in hell is the least of what she should have to go through...combine all the pain of everyone on here...she will NEVER feel what all of us have felt! I am Not out of Line!! In fact I don't think burning in hell is enough! Natalie almost cost someone their life...OVER A FREAKING PUBLICITY STUNT!! I will never forgive her...NEVER!...she can never be sorry enough...shes sorry because she was caught...if she had never been caught she would never have been sorry...so i say it once again...burn in Hell Natalie...BURN!
Yeah i know i was shocked when i read that... OUT OF LINE!??!
 
AliasALIAS said:
SydneyandVaughn said:
Okay... I completely understand why so many people are so angry at Natalie, yet I don't see how those of you could say certain things about this.  I was re-reading posts, and saw that someone wrote about how so many people wasted thoughts and prayers on her.  Don't  you realize that no prayer is ever wasted?  And if anything, Natalie needs your prayers.  Everyone was praying for her healing, and while she didn't need physical healing as we all thought, she certainly needs mental healing.  I honestly don't get angry, and I feel nothing but extreme sorrow that she would tell stories like this.  I feel nothing but pain that her mind is poluted and her sense of humor is so twisted.

So, yes, she did a horrific thing, broke our hearts (through her "apparent" death), and betrayed us all.  However, as a Christian, I believe that by treating those who have done horrible things with kindness, often is the most appropriate punishment of all.  Whether you believe in Jesus or not, you have to admit his teachings were correct.  He once said, "He among you who is free of sin shall be the first to cast the stone."  All of us have made mistakes (some much worse than others), and we are in no position to condemn Natalie.  To say, "Burn in hell," accomplishes nothing.  We are not to judge, but to assume that she will accept her punishment in due time.  No one should have the right to say that she is not sorry.  She may very well be, although she may think this is funny.  Yet, in due time, she will feel the pain and suffer the consequences.  As I said before, I believe that kindness, sympathy, and prayer are the only options we have. 

How would you feel if you betrayed and lied to those who loved you?  You may feel that they deserve it.  What would you do then, if instead of hating you (as they would be expected to), they treated you with love?  My first boyfriend was abusive verbally to me.  Because I wouldn't do certain things that he wanted me to, he would be very cruel.  He told me many times that he hated me, he never wanted to see me again.  He said "F*** you," and "Burn in hell."  You know what my response was?  "I love you."  He was my friend before a boyfriend, and I did love him.  In his better moods, he admitted how much he just wanted me to lose my temper and not talk to him.  He told me how much it hurt him to know that I still cared.  To treat him with kindness made him truly realize how cruel he was.

Jesus said, "Thou shalt heap burning coals on his head with your kindness."  I believe that it is true.  So, while so many of you feel intense hatred toward Natalie, I merely ask you to think again.  Hatred helps nothing.  Love can solve all problems, and while they may not be solved as quickly as we would like, they will be solved in time.  Natalie will have to live with this burden on her shoulders for the rest of her life.  That, in my opinion, is the worst punishment.

Natalie, I am still praying for you.  While you may not need it physically, you need the prayers emotionally and spiritually.  May you truly be sorry and never hurt people again.  None of us are in any position to judge you.  You have made some incredibly horrible decisions, and you will have to pay for them.  May your heart be changed and I hope one day you will find true happiness.  God bless you, Natalie.
I kind of agree with this.

I know that many of you are hurt by this. I trusted Nat too. We never became close friends, but I believed everything she said. I thought she was sick. I thought she was dying. I thought that she had been abused. I believed all of her lies. And to find out that they were lies, nothing more, I understand why everyone is so angered by this.

But why did she do it? To get attention. We gave her attention. Attention that she obviously needed. She did it the wrong way. But hating her won't help her. Before you found out that she was lying, you considred her a friend. I know that she told BIG lies, lies that hit close to home for some of you, but didn't you feel sorry for her when you thought it was the truth? Now we know who Nat really is. A liar, to say the least. But how is wishing her the worst going to help? It's just going to bring out more negative feelings.

I know most of us, maybe even all of us, have never told lies as big as Nat did. But don't we wish to be forgiven when we do tell small lies?

Put yourself in Natalie's spot. If you told lies as big as Nat did (which I'm sure we won't ever), there is obviously something wrong with you. Maybe you're mentally ill, traumatized, or just plain sick. But you're only human. You'd want to be forgiven. You wouldn't want your former friends to hope you go to hell. You only wish that things will get better.

So Natalie does need prayer. We need prayer. And if you're not religious, you should still know that hatred won't do humanity any good.
does anything else do any good? not really... and you need to understand how impossible it is to forgive someone who completely broke your trust. To say this simply, i have a very hard time trusting ppl and this... oh never mind you guys wont get it ^_^
 
SydB_JenG said:
Alias_Gay said:
SydB_JenG said:
If I could...I would high five you right now Tommy!! GRR!! Natalie!! You can burn in hell!
I think that was way out of line, Mo ... I know you are angry, but yes, I know how you feel ... and yes, I would High-5 Tommy too ... ;)
Out of Line??? Out of Line???? Are you kidding ME!! I am not out of line...someone on here (i wont say their name) wanted to kill themselves that day she died!! AND NOW WE FIND OUT SHE HIRED SOMEONE TO DO THAT!! Why the hell would she do that!! Its sick and twisted...And I would consider her a murder if that certain someone had killed themselves...burning in hell is the least of what she should have to go through...combine all the pain of everyone on here...she will NEVER feel what all of us have felt! I am Not out of Line!! In fact I don't think burning in hell is enough! Natalie almost cost someone their life...OVER A FREAKING PUBLICITY STUNT!! I will never forgive her...NEVER!...she can never be sorry enough...shes sorry because she was caught...if she had never been caught she would never have been sorry...so i say it once again...burn in Hell Natalie...BURN!
Someone wanted to commit suicide?! Ok, now I am really really really glad that I help get you found out! I mean your life is one thing, but some other innocent person's is something completely different! Someone could've died over your little joke! How could you....
 
SydB_JenG said:
But hating her won't help her.I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
 
Aliasgirl47 said:
SydB_JenG said:
Alias_Gay said:
SydB_JenG said:
If I could...I would high five you right now Tommy!! GRR!! Natalie!! You can burn in hell!
I think that was way out of line, Mo ... I know you are angry, but yes, I know how you feel ... and yes, I would High-5 Tommy too ... ;)
Out of Line??? Out of Line???? Are you kidding ME!! I am not out of line...someone on here (i wont say their name) wanted to kill themselves that day she died!! AND NOW WE FIND OUT SHE HIRED SOMEONE TO DO THAT!! Why the hell would she do that!! Its sick and twisted...And I would consider her a murder if that certain someone had killed themselves...burning in hell is the least of what she should have to go through...combine all the pain of everyone on here...she will NEVER feel what all of us have felt! I am Not out of Line!! In fact I don't think burning in hell is enough! Natalie almost cost someone their life...OVER A FREAKING PUBLICITY STUNT!! I will never forgive her...NEVER!...she can never be sorry enough...shes sorry because she was caught...if she had never been caught she would never have been sorry...so i say it once again...burn in Hell Natalie...BURN!
Someone wanted to commit suicide?! Ok, now I am really really really glad that I help get you found out! I mean your life is one thing, but some other innocent person's is something completely different! Someone could've died over your little joke! How could you....
OMG MANDI!! I know...when you said it was a joke...I WAS SO RELIEVED!! OMG!! You saved someones life! You really did!!
 
SiriCerasi said:
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
But hating her won't help her.
I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
I know you were hurt by this. But really, we've all told lies, just on a different scale. But we didn't do it for the world to hate us.

I realize now that I'm trying to make you love a person you felt betryed by. Sorry :(
 
SiriCerasi said:
SydB_JenG said:
But hating her won't help her.I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
It's true, we tried to help her, and we came out looking like the fools. And no one plays me for a fool!
 
AliasALIAS said:
. But really, we've all told lies, just on a MUCH smaller scale.
I would be careful about making that generalization.

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AliasALIAS said:
SiriCerasi said:
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
But hating her won't help her.
I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
I know you were hurt by this. But really, we've all told lies, just on a MUCH smaller scale. But we didn't do it for the world to hate us.

I realize now that I'm trying to make you love a person you felt betryed by. Sorry :(
I understand what your trying to say but it's one thing to claim to your mother that you didn't eat one extra cookie when you really did, but claiming that you were abused, dying, pregnant, and raped is another.
 
AliasALIAS said:
SiriCerasi said:
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
But hating her won't help her.
I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
I know you were hurt by this. But really, we've all told lies, just on a MUCH smaller scale. But we didn't do it for the world to hate us.

I realize now that I'm trying to make you love a person you felt betryed by. Sorry :(
Natalie took all of our love!!! AND THEN IT GOT RUN OVER WITH A SEMI...THROWN IN A BLENDER...AND FED TO THE SHARKS!! I'm not going to love her!!
 
Don't think it will do any good for everybody to tell her "burn in hell" ... once you do bad things here on earth, you will get to pay for them here on earth .. there are no second chances ... and yes, she did lie and do allthose bad things ... worst than most of us would ever do ... she got caught and now she wants forgiveness ... I think it would be easier for us to say, no, I am not gonna forgive her ... or for that matter "burn in hell" ... you just don't ask for something and then wait to see what happens ... she lied, she manipulated, she led people to believe some stories in her mind ... but where were you when the going got tough for her ... we don't know what went through her head or why she did what she did ... I am angry too ... I have lost friends and family because of cancer .... my best friend committed suicide by hanging himself ... so many things, bad things has happened in my life too ... and you guys are still too young to see this ... but whatever you do in life, will come back to haunt you ... and in this case ... we will never know, but someday she might get raped, and abused and no one will believe her ... and then she will try to kill herself and then we won't know about it ... I am not saying she deserves forgiveness, but she needs help, and if her family wants to do that ... let them do it ... you might find yourslef someday in her same shoes that she is standing in now ... and would you ask for forgiveness then?
 
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
SiriCerasi said:
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
But hating her won't help her.
I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
I know you were hurt by this. But really, we've all told lies, just on a MUCH smaller scale. But we didn't do it for the world to hate us.

I realize now that I'm trying to make you love a person you felt betryed by. Sorry :(
Natalie took all of our love!!! AND THEN IT GOT RUN OVER WITH A SEMI...THROWN IN A BLENDER...AND FED TO THE SHARKS!! I'm not going to love her!!
It's true, when I thought she died, a part of me died with her, but now, she's as good as dead to me, but I feel complete because I don't have a backstabber in my life anymore.
 
SydB_JenG said:
Natalie took all of our love!!! AND THEN IT GOT RUN OVER WITH A SEMI...THROWN IN A BLENDER...AND FED TO THE SHARKS!! I'm not going to love her!!
I said sorry for trying to sway your emotions :confused:
 
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
SiriCerasi said:
SydB_JenG said:
AliasALIAS said:
But hating her won't help her.
I really don't care if I'm not helping her!! Someone else can help her!! I did enough of that!! And it was over LIES! I'm done trying to help her!
yeah i did as much as i could to help her, but it was all over NOTHING i really dont feel like doing anything else for her
I know you were hurt by this. But really, we've all told lies, just on a MUCH smaller scale. But we didn't do it for the world to hate us.

I realize now that I'm trying to make you love a person you felt betryed by. Sorry :(
Natalie took all of our love!!! AND THEN IT GOT RUN OVER WITH A SEMI...THROWN IN A BLENDER...AND FED TO THE SHARKS!! I'm not going to love her!!
I agree!!! How the heck can anyone love her after what she's done!! She hurt us beyond what she can even imagine, some of us more then others. And like Siri said, she was sent a PM saying she was going to kill herself, DIDN'T SHE HAVE ANY IDEA OF HOW UPSET SIRI WOULD BE?! AND WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF US? HUH?! I mean....does she have no morals, no consience? ARGH! DOES SHE HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH THESE LIES WOULD HURT US ALL?!
 
Alias_Gay said:
Don't think it will do any good for everybody to tell her "burn in hell" ... once you do bad things here on earth, you will get to pay for them here on earth .. there are no second chances ... and yes, she did lie and do allthose bad things ... worst than most of us would ever do ... she got caught and now she wants forgiveness ... I think it would be easier for us to say, no, I am not gonna forgive her ... or for that matter "burn in hell" ... you just don't ask for something and then wait to see what happens ... she lied, she manipulated, she led people to believe some stories in her mind ... but where were you when the going got tough for her ... we don't know what went through her head or why she did what she did ... I am angry too ... I have lost friends and family because of cancer .... my best friend committed suicide by hanging himself ... so many things, bad things has happened in my life too ... and you guys are still too young to see this ... but whatever you do in life, will come back to haunt you ... and in this case ... we will never know, but someday she might get raped, and abused and no one will believe her ... and then she will try to kill herself and then we won't know about it ... I am not saying she deserves forgiveness, but she needs help, and if her family wants to do that ... let them do it ... you might find yourslef someday in her same shoes that she is standing in now ... and would you ask for forgiveness then?
First of all, burning in Hell is not like any type of punishment known to man, and I wouldn't wish that one on anyone, but I stil can't quite forgive her. And I don't think I will find myself in her exact same place, because I don't lie and I believe it is wrong, so I don't plan on ever finding myself in the same position. But I do pray that she gets help, one less sick mind in the world is one less potential psychopath serial killer to worry about.
 
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