Season 3 I Think We're In Big Trouble . . .

Well, I think it's going to be great, and I'm really looking forward to next year! The writing crew hasn't changed and they haven't let me down yet, and the cast isn't going to change a whole lot, either, from the looks of it. Personally, I like the Rambaldi thread. The series has always had that element of the fantastic; that's why it won all those Saturn awards.

Furthermore, while Mr Abrams takes sudden left turns, I don't think he takes them without thinking about where he's going first. In other words, I think he's unlikely to write himself into a corner. Perhaps I'm wrong about that, but that's not what I've seen from him so far.

What, me panic?
:smiley:
 
It could also possibly mean that he's only making a few changes. It's likely that he knows the direction Alias is going for at least the first few episodes, possibly the whole season. But the writers probably didn't expect the amount of disappointment from the fans (discluding me). So JJ is probably just reconsidering a few things here and there to make sure Alias doesn't trail off the road.
 
AliasALIAS said:
It could also possibly mean that he's only making a few changes. It's likely that he knows the direction Alias is going for at least the first few episodes, possibly the whole season. But the writers probably didn't expect the amount of disappointment from the fans (discluding me). So JJ is probably just reconsidering a few things here and there to make sure Alias doesn't trail off the road.
I hope you're right! Please God, I hope you're right! I do hear that JJ has people who look at sites like this one to see what the fans think about how the show is going. Maybe that will have some influence.

I plan to wait at least several episodes into the new season before I decide whether or not I like what's happening. Fair enough? :smiley:
 
Ophelia said:
I plan to wait at least several episodes into the new season before I decide whether or not I like what's happening. Fair enough? :smiley:
If you mean at least half way through the season, yes, it's fair ^_^
 
First off, that clip was very, very funny. Loved it. But back to the matter at hand. I do believe JJ knows where he is going. I'm sure writing isn't very easy first off, especially for such a series. He should be allowed to really think things through and make sure he puts out what is best for the show. I have complete confidence in JJ and we should wait to see what happens next season before too many judgements are made (especially based upon one statement by Mr. Garber who doesn't know more than we do. Well, at least at this point anyways.) So please, wait and see what happens before giving up on the show.
 
syd_spy47 said:
First off, that clip was very, very funny. Loved it.
I agree. I'm really glad to have seen it. I don't blame Mr Garber for fearing that he might be asked to don a pair of trunks after seeing what happened to Mr Rifkin! But perhaps Mr Rifkin is particularly fearless . . .

Yeah, I know, getting . . .

:eek:fftopic:
 
i believe very firmly that JJ has an ultimate plan for the series. and it's just like what Victor Garber and Ron Rifkin were saying, is that there are guidelines for each character for the course of the show that they have to follow. so he does have a plan. but i suppose that the circumstances under which many of those scenarios must occur are not pre-decided.

when you just look back to the first season, it's obvious that time and again JJ and the other writers were setting us up for what's happening now. so you can't say that JJ doesn't have a plan or keeps changing his mind. i think he just keeps wanting to come up with ways to keep the show fresh. like when he has Syd take down The Alliance, he felt they had fallen into a predictable formula where Syd gets an sd-6 mission and Vaughn gives her a counter mission and there's a chance she could get found out. so he made a command decision to keep the show fresh. and that's probably why he "went back to the drawing board," as Victor Garber said.
 
I think that the two-year jump surprised the actors, but I don't think it was a big shock for JJ Abrams. He'd probably been rubbing his hands together in glee for a few months can't-waiting to see it hit the screen (kinda like Sloane . . . scary thought . . .). For the actors, their characters are all thrown up in the air and they have no idea where they'll end up. It's exciting and scary, like a rollercoaster in the dark--where all the cars go in different directions. I can't tell you that I think that Mr Abrams had this event planned from the beginning--though I wouldn't put it past him. But I think he has had some of the major plot points through the life of the series in mind from day one--probably to the denouement (and I hope ABC lets us get there).

However, I do think he might have had them destroy the Alliance earlier than he had originally planned. It just turned out to be a little too constricting. (And at the beginning of the season I noted that Sydney did a lot of missions for the CIA with Jack covering for her at SD-6 anyway . . .)
;)
 
I agree ... the destruction of SD-6 came like a big surprise ... SD-6 was so big, that Syd wasn't sure if they could destroy it ... and all of a sudden, on one mission, everything was destroyed and then everthing changed in the show ... we got evil-francie, we got to see more of Irina, her betrayal to Sydney, we got to learn more about the Rambaldi artifacts, Emily's 2nd death, Dixon's and Marshall inclusion to CIA, Dixon's wife death, and a lot more ...

JJ knows what he is doing, and I am sure he is just trying to keep the actors in suspense, the same way we are ... we are going crazy, because of the cliffhanger ... what happened? two years? how? what? when? :blink:

So, yeah ... give JJ some credit in giving us the BEST show on TV and, by the start of Season 3, everything will come back into place ... I am sure about that ... ;)
 
All I know is that JJ better not do anything stupid like have Vaughn married or something worse! Oh I forgot there is nothing worse! Well if he died or Weiss died I would be pretty PO'd at him!
 
verdantheart agree completely with your post.

From interview the SV romance was not originally thought out until they noticed the chemistry between the actors.

I see a definite pre planed story in the background but JJ has left himself lots of flexibility with the foreground elements. When JJ came up with the two year in the future idea he may not have had Syd with Vaughn and still had Syd working for SD-6 but the Rambaldi story is flexible enough to change the not connected elements without effecting it. The original idea with the two year jump might have been to hit Syd with something else that was the most important thing to her to shock her with but after they decided Syd and Vaughn would get together that of course became the most important thing to Syd to be messed with the two year jump.
 
Milferd said:
verdantheart agree completely with your post.

From interview the SV romance was not originally thought out until they noticed the chemistry between the actors.

I see a definite pre planed story in the background but JJ has left himself lots of flexibility with the foreground elements. When JJ came up with the two year in the future idea he may not have had Syd with Vaughn and still had Syd working for SD-6 but the Rambaldi story is flexible enough to change the not connected elements without effecting it. The original idea with the two year jump might have been to hit Syd with something else that was the most important thing to her to shock her with but after they decided Syd and Vaughn would get together that of course became the most important thing to Syd to be messed with the two year jump.
I started following you, then I was like :eek:

WTF :blink:

I have to re-read it to understand ... :P
 
It was extremely funny! Mr. Rifkin's socks--- :P I loved it. It was funny the way they were doting on Jennifer. It's nice to see that they all think VERY highly of eachother and you can just tell they must have the greatest time working together.
 
ALIAS_RULES said:
That was really funny :lol: . And i didn't know Victor Garber (jack) was Canadian (y) .
Yes, and even Jack's Alias dossier has him born in London, Ontario.
;)
 
verdantheart said:
Yes, and even Jack's Alias dossier has him born in London, Ontario.
;)
Thats really wierd! Just like they have Vaughn's in Fleury, Normandy, France. But I find that kinda wierd. The CIA having people from orginaly not from the US?? I dunno. I just find that odd.
 
alias_luver said:
Thats really wierd! Just like they have Vaughn's in Fleury, Normandy, France. But I find that kinda wierd. The CIA having people from orginaly not from the US?? I dunno. I just find that odd.
I'm sure that they have a good many naturalized citizens--with proper background checks. They were avidly looking for people fluent in Arabic, after all! (And, basically--and this is probably a patronizing POV, but it's true--we (Yanks) tend to consider Canada as kind of almost an extension of the US as it is; the borders & politics are just a formality to our casual way of thinking. And, hey, there was a movement in Quebec to cecede and join the US (as though the US is any more French language-friendly . . .)!)

[ :blush: , wandering :eek:fftopic: here]
;)
 
alias_luver said:
verdantheart said:
Yes, and even Jack's Alias dossier has him born in London, Ontario.
;)
Thats really wierd! Just like they have Vaughn's in Fleury, Normandy, France. But I find that kinda wierd. The CIA having people from orginaly not from the US?? I dunno. I just find that odd.
The characters have several things in common with the actors.

Syd and JG have the same birthday (not year)
Vaughn and Vartan's birthplace (as mentioned)
VG and Jack's birthplace (as mentioned)
VG and Jack are left-handed (I think)


Maybe a lack of creativity from the profile creators?


Anyways, still :eek:fftopic:
 
Well, I heard that their bugget was really high. So they had to get rid of a couple characters. So, they WERE going to get rid of both Francie(evil) and Will. But they changed it last minute and decided to keep Will. And since they changed the end last minute, they have NO IDEA what they're doing next season. That's what I heard a while back. But no one here believed me. But I'm sure that JJ and the writers board will figure something out that will be really good! So no worries!
 
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