Irina is good. Here's why.

Manu said:
As for finding out about Irina (for sure) next Sunday, I'm not betting on it!
Well.. you should ;)

The best scenes in the finale are the Syd/Irina ones. A LOT of people are going to be surprised.
i know i think i am most excited for that scene with them in it together! ooo i cant wait, i really want to know what is up with her, even though i do have my own speculations which i hope come true but i cant post them here because they are based off spoilers, and i know how people are about their spoiler vows and i applaud you, because im weak when it comes to spoilers! ^_^
 
Manu said:
As for finding out about Irina (for sure) next Sunday, I'm not betting on it!
Well.. you should ;)

The best scenes in the finale are the Syd/Irina ones. A LOT of people are going to be surprised.
Have you seen it? Or just read spoilers? You can't bet unless you're unspoiled.
:smiley:
 
In Panama, Jack and Irina were supposed to work together to capture Sloane and get Sydney out of the spy world so that she could have a normal life, which is what she has always wanted. Jack's plan would have been the easiest and most logical way to do it. Instead, Irina threw in her lot with Sloane. That is why I have turned against her. Now I don't want Irina anywhere near Jack or Sydney ever again. She deserved a second chance, which she got. She blew it. Being reduced to zapping your own daughter in order to get her attention is a pretty sorry state of affairs.
 
I think she's always been obsessed. Irina is good but SHE'S PUTTING RAMBALDI FIRST! SYD AND JACK ARE SUPOSSED TO BE FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
alias8000 said:
I think she's always been obsessed. Irina is good but SHE'S PUTTING RAMBALDI FIRST! SYD AND JACK ARE SUPOSSED TO BE FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be so sure about that....

Wait and see ;)
 
Manu said:
alias8000 said:
I think she's always been obsessed. Irina is good but SHE'S PUTTING RAMBALDI FIRST! SYD AND JACK ARE SUPOSSED TO BE FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't be so sure about that....

Wait and see ;)
Okay, okay, okay! I seriously am excited about this Sunday and I can't wait to see what happens!! :jump: ESPECIALLY with Irina!!! :jump:
 
Unless Irina is prepared to turn herself back in and face the consequences of a lifetime of crime and deceit, I have nothing to reconsider.
 
alias8000 said:
I think she's always been obsessed. Irina is good but SHE'S PUTTING RAMBALDI FIRST! SYD AND JACK ARE SUPOSSED TO BE FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless she has to go after Rambaldi to serve and protect her family. As I've said, the only way I can see for her to have betrayed Jack and still love him is if that betrayal were necessary to protect him and/or Sydney. Otherwise, why would she not enlist his help? They work together so very well. This is part of the missing information--and were it to prove true, it would explain a good deal of her behavior.

However, look at what she's done in the service of her family! Jack would do these things himself (and has done some pretty difficult things) for Sydney, but he would never approve of Irina doing the things she has done for his sake. He would probably prevent her, even if it meant sacrificing his own life.

As I've said, the door is open for her, but any tangible information that says she's good is still missing. Hopefully, we'll get some more information before the season is out.
;)
 
verdantheart said:
alias8000 said:
I think she's always been obsessed. Irina is good but SHE'S PUTTING RAMBALDI FIRST! SYD AND JACK ARE SUPOSSED TO BE FIRST!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unless she has to go after Rambaldi to serve and protect her family. As I've said, the only way I can see for her to have betrayed Jack and still love him is if that betrayal were necessary to protect him and/or Sydney. Otherwise, why would she not enlist his help? They work together so very well. This is part of the missing information--and were it to prove true, it would explain a good deal of her behavior.

However, look at what she's done in the service of her family! Jack would do these things himself (and has done some pretty difficult things) for Sydney, but he would never approve of Irina doing the things she has done for his sake. He would probably prevent her, even if it meant sacrificing his own life.

As I've said, the door is open for her, but any tangible information that says she's good is still missing. Hopefully, we'll get some more information before the season is out.
;)
I completely agree with you. That makes total sense.
 
You may not believe this, but I'm from the Philippines and our TV network is so late in airing ALIAS episodes . Plus they stopped airing it about three weeks ago. The last episode that I've actually seen is Episode 2.3 "Cipher". Good thing another TV network is gonna be continuing the series it.

What's the connection? My speculations were just based on transcripts I read from the net. Oh! I just wish the transcripts for the last three episodes of season 2 would be up now so I can reanalyze my theory. So right now, I'm sticking to it unless I read something that doesn't figure with it on those episodes. Then I'm gonna discard it and start fresh.

Anyway, I think Jack and Irina are actually working together but because of the sensitive nature of their problem, which would be (according to my theory which I heard was proven true :D ) Sydney's involvement in the Rambaldi thing, they could not possibly be more careful than acting like they're not working together.

I dunno you were the ones who saw the season finale, why not disprove this theory and tell me something 'bout it? :blush:
 
Your Filipino! OMG! My mom is Filipino! I'm half Filipino!

Last night, Irina gave Syd tons of information that totally helped out the CIA. She totally showed her love for Syd too. Um, I dunno what else to say b/c I'm just a young kid.
 
okay, I should prolly read the rest of this thread before saying my bit, but I agree with Erika, last night Irina revealed quite a bit to Sydney, even wished her luck and a heartfelt "I love you sweetheart". Unless she was simply trying to get Sydney to do something, or earn her trust again only to betray her, which I don't think is the case, she may have truly wanted to warn Sydney about Sloane belief that he is "the chosen one". I really do think that in the long run, she's a good guy. She just wants to protect Sydney, and even Jack, from whatever Rambaldi's forseen.

inaccurate ramblings from a thirteen year old girl. :D

and :eek:fftopic: but I'm half-Filipino too! yay! :lol:
 
When Irina was showing her love for Syd (DUDE! SHE WAS EVEN CRYING!!!) at the hockey rink and that rooftop I literally almost cried. Literally. She showed soo much love! She said that she has always loved Syd and her father and she called Syd 'sweetheart'! When she jumped off I though she was gonna die, my heard like stopped and I was like frozen, but luckily there was a bungee cord! Sorry, off topic on that part but Irina did help Syd show that Will was clean. If that didn't happen, Freplica would've never been found out by Will and all that other stuff wouldn't have happened.
 
I'm not buying it. "I love you, sweetheart!" (Zap! Thwack!) I'll bet Sydney wishes her mother would stop loving her so much. And where was all this revelation before she escaped, leaving Jack open to going to prison for a second time because of her? And why isn't she telling him that she loves him? I hear that sociopaths are very good at crocodile tears.

Oh, and as for Will's predicament -- don't forget who was responsible for that in the first place.
 
People are also very good at making lame excuses when they're in denial... Seriously, get over it. :rolleyes:
 
I just read the transcripts of the two-hour finale, and while skimming through the message board I was shocked that all the people seem to talk about was the last two minutes of it! Okay, It was mind-blowing! ( the fanfics would be equally mind-blowing this summer). But so was the first hour and 58 minutes, right?

Just would like to add to my theories:
The finale further cemented in my mind that Jack was working with Irina but jj is still keeping it a secret.
1. They wanted to keep Will safe.
2. Jack seemed to be more caught up with Rambaldi and Sloane than on Irina. No bitter remarks whatsoever.
KENDALL: And we had to find out about this breach from Irina Derevko?!
JACK: The question is, what is the prudent next step?
SYDNEY: She's lying. She has to be. It's a set-up.
VAUGHN: Then why show up in person? It's a big risk.
DIXON: From what I know of Derevko, she's loyal to only one person: herself.
SYDNEY: Dixon's right, obviously. I don't know, maybe this is a valid play for Sloane.
KENDALL: Maybe, but why would she need us to play it?
JACK: Guilt. Her motives may be insidious, her methods loathsome, but she is not unfeeling. I say we send in a team. Proceed with caution, but proceed.
Was that a defense of Irina or what??? And also he wants them to proceed as Irina would have wanted.

I dunno. Wished things were a little clearer but I guess I'd have to wait for season 3 for confirmation. Among other things...
 
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