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Season 3 The 2- Year gap !

Discussion in 'Alias' started by seedling, May 5, 2003.

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  1. seedling

    seedling Rocket Ranger

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    It must have started when Sloane has gotten hold of all 47 Rambaldi devices
    & assemble it together. That's why he was crazy enough to convince Jack to
    re-kindle their partnership, among that, Sydney will never be a pawn in this
    deadly game again !!

    Second, after the catfight between Syd & Freclipica(Allison), Sloane took Syd
    put in a time machine built from Rambadli parts & sent her two years into the
    future, this would explains why that Vaughn believe that Syd was dead, thus
    being married to someone else. Of course, that's my theory, I could be wrong, but who knows.

    Finally, if you remember Page 47 from the 1st season showing Sydney as the
    descendant of the Prophecy & Irina must discovered something in those atrifacts which would meant Syd was chosen to stop whatever Sloane was
    going to do by finding a way back into her own time (2003). Because Syd's
    hair should've been longer than it is now & the scar on her lower abdomen
    was there recently.

    That's all I want to tell you, if you have ideas you like to add, feel free & reply
    when get the chance.
     
  2. Kalan

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    ok it is late but bear with me. why on earth would sloane use a time machine to send syd 2 years into the future? that makes zero sense to me. and the "pawn" thing just meant that sloane was kind of coming clean in a way with jack. he was telling him that he wouldn't use syd as a pawn in the game he was playing with jack. and i have no idea what you are saying by bringing up the thing with the hair and the scar. the scar was healed...it showed a passage of time.
     
  3. oxfordblues

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    i just posted this reply in the spoilers forum but i'm thinking it's more appropriate here! in response to someone's time travel theory, explaining the two year gap:
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    wow, i was surfing for a forum where i could read other people's reactions to the finale and boy, did i get my wish with a vengeance!

    i'm just going to do a lot of speculating here, and i haven't read many of the posts so if this may seem redundant to some, skip ahead. i agree with what a lot of people have suggested already, which is that sloane has used the rambaldi device around the time that sydney killed evil francie...and i'm beginning to warm to the idea that the device is a time travelling machine of sorts, or something that manipulates time. after all, there are several hints at this possibility:

    a) this would NOT be the first time j.j. abrahms would have introduced time travel in his series. if he can do it in 'felicity,' it makes a helluva lot more sense to use it in a show like 'alias.' that might possibly make the very last bit of the finale, where sydney wakes up in hong kong, a projection of sorts, a world that may happen but hasn't happened yet from the night sydney killed francie. (and also therefor make vaughn's marriage a non-reality!!! please let that be true!!) that would explain sydney's disappearance and sudden reappearance in this 'future' hong kong scene...she would have been missing for two years because she was being subjected to time travel!

    b) what other way to become 'immortal,' what rambaldi was apparently seeking, than to create a device that manipulates time? that way one can never die if someone from the future is able to go back into the past and bring that person forth into the future. and maybe, rambaldi has already done a little time travelling already...i mean, either he was this really spot-on prophet, or maybe he actually saw with his own eyes cellular phone technology and transistors and the like. maybe rambaldi WAS here already, here in 2003.

    ...in this case i hope season 3 doesn't get too wrapped up in this whole time travel theory if this is really the case...it would be just a little too back-to-the-future for me and detract from the whole spy/solving puzzles/etc etc that has made alias so addictive...

    ...and, here's my one last little theory that is a little far fetched, but who knows? you can do lots with time travel! i've been reading spoilers for the finale all week and it was hinted that two cast members were supposed to die but only one got killed off, because the show was going over budget and needed to drop a character. we learn that will survives two years into the future and we know that evil francie is killed. but like you said about merrin, i too heard she was doing major training toward the end of the season and i was thinking the same thing...what a shame to just kill her off in one ep after all that work! i'm just thinking how twisted it would be if in season 3, say they are able to play with time...and francie survives and will dies. or somehow juggle the show so that between bradley cooper and merrin dungey, one will remain a cast member and one may still be a reoccuring guest star. just a thought.

    ...anyway this time travel theory i think is the most plausible one suggested so far. does anyone have any other theories as to what *really* happens two years down the road? i don't think season 3 is going to be all about 2 years into the future either....there would be too much explaining to do in those two years that sydney has disappeared.
     
  4. aliasfreak77

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    wow! i have been too upset about it to come up with much so far...i think i REALLY like the time travel thing, but i agree with you there that it shouldnt become a regular thing or it will drag down the show...yeah if syd time traveled, and she could get back, vaughn's marriage never would have happened! woo hoo, we finally have a winner! we gotta keep thinking, but we have LOTS of time since no new eps till november...ugh, why did i remind myself...
     
  5. Kalan

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    as i've said before, i don't think it's time travel. i think it's a glimpse, a "Telling" if you will. read the Kalan Theory, available on a multitude of threads.
     
  6. Jenem

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    I don't want there to be a gap! I want to see how Marshall's relationship with Kerry plays out, and how Dixon finally comes to terms with Diane's death. I don't want to see Syd hurt, and have her love ruined again!! What is this, Buffy????
    I know I'm whining but I can't stand this - I've watched this show since day 1 and to have all these story lines from the characters I know so well just *poof* and finished...say it ain't so!!! Say Sydney's travelled in time, just send her back! Say she's having a drug-induced hallucination! I don't care, just put it back the way it was!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    **where's the crying my eyes out emoticon???**
     
  7. *RougeVixen*

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    So, my Dad and I were talking after it was over. Of course, he didn't watch it cuz he's a poo, but we still speculated about it. I explained everything and he came up with some interesting suggestions.
    1) Sydney was actually a 'sleeper' agent. Where, y'know, you're living a normal life when one day you here a certain 'code' or something and you get called by whoever your working for and then become their mindless worker until their done with you, at least that's how my Dad explained it. So, he said Syd got called as a sleeper agent and two whole years went by without he knowing it and when 'they' were done with her, she retured to her normal state or person and mind, only she thought it was two years before...get it?
    2) Francie (Allison) wasn't quite as dead as we thought and somehow managed to call her superiors (Sark, Sloane, Unknown Bad Person) and they took Sydney into their cistody. They tortured and brainwashed her for two years, (torture, hence the scar.), and forced her to reveal everything she knew and suspected of the CIA and other intelligence agencies around the world. They then dumped her when they were finished with her, wiping out any memories of the ordeal except for physical evidence (the scar). Now, two years later, she confused as hell and has no idea what's going on.
    3) Everybody is messing with her mind and no one is who they say they are. Everyone just plays a fake role in her life. Everyone.
    4) She really has been missing for two years with the no memory of anything. Vaughn married out of impluse to try and dull the pain of thinking Syd was dead. Sydney was captured by the enemy (rememnants of the KGB, Irina and Sark, Sloane, other...). The CIA believes that she really is dead or she betrayed them.
    -I admit, they are a bit far fetched, but, hey, the show doesn't start again until October and any is possible, right? Damn summer break... :mad:
    *Stacie*
     
  8. quietgirl27012

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    Yeah maybe syd went bad for a few years
     
  9. quietgirl27012

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    Yeah maybe syd went bad for a few years
     
  10. Shelley_c

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    As for the scar.....maybe she had a c-section. The episode started out with her an Vaughn doing the nasty....maybe she was pregnant during the 2 years. Although I am not sure if the baby ould have survived the EvilFrancie fight.
     
  11. ilovesark

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    but think about it... the thing is: she doesn't forget everything. cause she remembered the number for the cia, her agent number, where the safehouse in HONG KONG was. so it's not like she has amnesia or anything. she's gotta remember. it must be a dream. each season finale has something drastic to do with vaughn. remember the finale for last year? vaughn 'drowned'? but as we saw in the premeire, he really didn't. it just leaves you with something to think about for the summer. just like this finale. vaughn is married. but maybe he was going to propose to her in that hotel in santa barbara that he got? and since she was missing, he just wore the ringin her honour. does that make any sense?

    it has to all be a dream. b/c whats happened all through the time she was missing? there would be no show to go on. sloane and irina will have gotten all their rambaldi stuff in two years, sark probably escaped from the cia, and the show would be over. it has to be a dream. but then again, i read somewhere that weiss isn't coming back for the 3rd season, which makes it all seem real. syd told weiss to go after her mom, who in turn shot wiess, and voila! he's not on the show anymore. and sark?? well, what can i say about him. he's the best part of the show, and if it all wasn't a dream then he's going to be ticked at syd cause she killed allison. which is fine, cause sark seemed vulnerable if he's got a girl. he needs to bad, ruthless, not a softy. "do you fancy him?" that wasn't the sark we know. remember when he and syd were in siberia going after that rambaldi music box? he was a mean killing machine, then she threw that pick-ax into his leg. ouch! but my point is, it has to be a dream. the show would be over if it wasn't. i make no sense, so ............. bye :)
     
  12. spunkyspy

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    i think she had a dream
     
  13. Victoria King

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    i hope it wasnt a dream!
     
  14. *RougeVixen*

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    I really hope it wasn't a dream, cuz, think about it. Something so dramatic, something that topped last yea's finale, Syd loses two years and her boyfiend is married. And, then it all turns out to be a dream. I think that'd be a bit of a cop out. It' a good plot, they can go many places with the whole thought-she-was-dead-Syd-missing-for-two-years plot line, but if they make it a dream...then it'll just be stupid. The dream thing hs been done.
    Only five more months...ugh.
    *Stacie*
     
  15. SydnVaughn4ever

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    Here's my theory: Sloane built a time machine with his Rambaldi devices. He sent Syd two yrs. into the future,so she's actually in a parallel/ alternate universe. The only way she can get back is if she can find Sloane and reverse/undo it. Kinda like H.G. Wells and his time machine!!! :blink:
     
  16. KikiCourt

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    I can't get over what happened last night on the finale! Maybe Syd has amnesia or it was a dream. I seriously cried for an hour, isn't that sad? I still have hope for Syd and Vaughn!
     
  17. Milo47

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    The 2 year gap is not a dream, the 2 year gap is a 2 year gap....understand?
     
  18. kate_jones

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    This is my theory! At least, this is what I hope happens. While I don't like the idea of all of a sudden skipping ahead two years, this would at least deal with the Sydney-Vaughn issue.
    I also think it's very unlikely that they would just skip two years like that without any explanation. It probably has something to do with Sloane and Rambaldi, since they made such a big deal of Irina telling Sydney how important she was to Rambaldi. So there has to be some sort of tie-in there, right?
     
  19. agentbristowbabe

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    Ya i found a major quote to back up what this person ^ said.

    "Zap2it.com: My sense is that it was more movies than TV that you were tuned into growing up. Was there telvision series or a point that you realized that people actually take this seriously?

    J.J. Abrams: My favorite show was "The Twilight Zone." I just loved that show. We actually did an episode this year, a "Twilight Zone" themed show, which was really fun to do."

    ya. im kinda into that time travel theory for season 3, and this would kinda explain (mostly to myself...) why on earth JJ would put in such sci-fi, in a relatively realistic show (well w/ the suspension of disbelief that is...)
    luv,
    agentbristowbabe
    ps:how on earth do you make the sig pics change? pleeze email me:forevernangel@hotmail.com cuz i can make pics.. but i want them to change... lol. :)
     
  20. SpyKitten47

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    Amen. A gap of two years gives Abrams and the Show such a new and exciting premise for Season 3. Next season will be us, and Sydney herself, discovering what happened, is happening, and what is to happen. I think the fact that we will be on the same Page (47) as Syd will really add to the excitment of next season.
    Also, there could be a classic Rambaldi Clause as seen in the original Prophecy. (She went to Mt.Subasio) Such as the ability to alter what has happened (ie Vaughn's marriage ::cringe::) if she discovers Rambaldi's meaning and learns how to use "il dire." Because, let's face it, that machine was behind all of it, and who was behind the Machine? Sloane. Aka The Devil Incarnate. :rolleyes:
     

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