Season 2 Through the looking glass

Thanks for your many thoughtful remarks! :D

lenafan said:
It cannot be Sloane because if Irina knows the prophecy, so does Sloane and that Sydney is the one who will destroy him. OR does he think Irina is the one?
Does he? Irina knows because of Haladki. But the page was taken from Sloane before it was revealed. Why would Irina voluntarily give this information to Sloane? I wouldn't.

Was something planted in her? OR as some think, removed.
Could be either way. Could be from a wound.

Kendall had no questions! He just sent her to a safe house.
She said she didn't know how she had gotten there or how much time had passed. Kendall probably has a way of verifying her identity at the safe house, and felt it was best to send someone there in person considering the situation (her apparent amnesia). I'd tend to agree with him.

(Does she know about Conrad and the scroll given to Sloane? – Another question.)
I tend to think that she's unaware of Conrad's mountain location, or The Man's team would have conducted a raid on it.
;)
 
verdantheart said:
lenafan said:
It cannot be Sloane because if Irina knows the prophecy, so does Sloane and that Sydney is the one who will destroy him. OR does he think Irina is the one?
Does he? Irina knows because of Haladki. But the page was taken from Sloane before it was revealed. Why would Irina voluntarily give this information to Sloane? I wouldn't.
I don't think Irina would do that either. But I see two possibilities:
[*]Sloane doesn't know. He said to Jack, "Sydney will no longer be a pawn in our venture." He must underestimated--or did not know of--Sydney's importance. But could he have possibly been lying?
[*]Sloane does know. The manuscript from Conrad must have had some major revelations for Sloane because he renewed his quest for Rambaldi. If he's been chosen, it's possible that he found out who else has been chosen. And why would he need Jack? Surely not just because they're friends. It must be about Rambaldi, and unless Jack has been chosen too, it may have some connection to Sydney and the Prophecy.


:smiley:
 
I did have a thought about Irina's uncanny ability to know where Sydney is...someone else has taken over Hadlaki's role at the CIA as her informant. Because of the job, the CIA has to know where their agents are at all times. (notice Vaughn being called away, leaving Syd alone at the rink) The mole could be the telephone operator.
 
If Sloane is in posession of all the artifacts, he probably knows about the prophecy. Unless the page 47 doesn't count as an artifact.

By the way, I really doubt Irina was communicating with anyone through the earrings. The beepings are too loud. You'd think the CIA would've notice that... :rolleyes:
 
Manu Posted on May 10 2003, 06:43 PM
I really doubt Irina was communicating with anyone through the earrings. The beepings are too loud. You'd think the CIA would've notice that...

I agree with that. Plus didn't they do another examination? I mean it sounded pretty thorough. And it didn't sound like they gave them back either.
 
Manu said:
If Sloane is in posession of all the artifacts, he probably knows about the prophecy. Unless the page 47 doesn't count as an artifact.
He just had collected "all the artifacts" for Il Dire (and apparently everything the NSA had); not all Rambaldi artifacts everywhere. For example, the frame (with the encryption key) is still in the Vatican, as far as we know.

By the way, I really doubt Irina was communicating with anyone through the earrings. The beepings are too loud. You'd think the CIA would've notice that... :rolleyes:
It's possible that Irina's other messages were mostly going out--which could have been silent. And as long as she has advanced technology, why not have a silent as well as sound mode (like a cell phone)? She could have set them to be noisy upon her departure so that Sydney would notice an incoming message that she otherwise would not have noticed. Meanwhile, Irina could have gotten incoming messages simply by wearing the earrings--through vibrations. The fact remains that she must have had some way of communicating with Sark and the earrings are the most likely suspect.

lenafan said:
someone else has taken over Hadlaki's role at the CIA as her informant.
That's quite possible.
;)
 
I added an additional thought to my insane speculation based on another theory, in case you're interested.
;)
 
VH, just posted the column listing on my favorites list. Will be looking forward to your Season 1 columns. It's going to be hard since you are aware of what has happened. :eek:

Re: the WILD speculation about Irina, the Di Regno heart and Sydney...I take it you think Irina may have been the one who took Sydney after the fight OR just the wild thot that it was she. :rolleyes:
Oh well, your wild and insane thots are not so wild in view of what Alias is...I think they're probably as wild as any the JJ and his evil cadre of writers can come up with. :Ph34r:
 
lenafan said:
I take it you think Irina may have been the one who took Sydney after the fight OR just the wild thot that it was she. :rolleyes:
You know, I really have no idea. I'm going back and forth on what my favorite theory of the moment is . . .
;)
 
:rolleyes: oh me oh my when we try to think what might have happened we are usually no where near what the boys in JJ's back room have figured out. :sigh: They no doubt will be busy this summer, sitting and :chatchairs: trying figure new ways to make us all grit our teeth...and then the fans will :argue: as to what they meant by the last episode of season two's ambiguities...oh well we must give them all (y) (y) (y) for their splendiferous imaginations.
Hurry up September 28? or whatever date they decide to have Alias start. :cool:
 
I just added a thought that has been bothering me over the past few days. Remember the three physical anomalies that Sydney fulfilled for the prophecy? They all just assumed she inherited them from her mother. (Just like they assumed The Man was a man.) They never bothered to check Jack for these anomalies although she could have just as easily inherited them from her father (For those who debate the point: assuming he's her father. There, happy?). I added it up where I discuss Irina telling Sydney that she's prophecy-girl.
;)
 
are you saying that jack might be the person in rambaldi's prophecy?

but what about rambaldi's drawing of the woman? and didn't he refer to the person in his prophecy as a woman as well?
 
crazy spinster said:
are you saying that jack might be the person in rambaldi's prophecy?

but what about rambaldi's drawing of the woman? and didn't he refer to the person in his prophecy as a woman as well?
Not at all. If Sydney inherited the characteristics from Jack and not Irina, "the woman here depicted" would most definitely be Sydney and not Irina, because Irina is ruled out (not having the invisible physical signs).
;)
 
ohhh, okay, i see what you're saying now. so you're saying this might rule out irina as being the woman in the prophecy, but not sydney?

that's definitely a good point. did they even check irina for the anomalies while the cia had her in custody? i mean, yes, the woman obviously committed quite a few atrocities but you would think that while they had her in custody, they may as well run those tests on her.
 
crazy spinster said:
ohhh, okay, i see what you're saying now. so you're saying this might rule out irina as being the woman in the prophecy, but not sydney?

that's definitely a good point. did they even check irina for the anomalies while the cia had her in custody? i mean, yes, the woman obviously committed quite a few atrocities but you would think that while they had her in custody, they may as well run those tests on her.
They would have, but if they it ... I don't believe so ...
 
They certainly should have run the tests on her to confirm her as the woman of the prophecy, but they seemed to drop concerns about the prophecy alltogether--I've often wondered why . . . Perhaps they just assumed--and here we go assuming again--that they had her (in Irina). If they did confirm her as fulfilling the prophecy, I would hope that it would be depicted, but who knows? There's reason for that fact to be concealed from Sydney, but if they found out that she fulfilled the prophecy and they were still concerned, wouldn't they have taken her into custody again?
;)
 
you're right, i didn't even think about that - they did drop the prophecy pretty quickly. which is just very strange after making such a huge deal out of it when they thought it was sydney.

and they should've run those tests on irina. if not to confirm irina as the woman, then to DISconfirm sydney as being prophecy girl.
 
Man, that was long ... but I just finished reading the whole thread ... and yes, those specaulations you have might actually come true ... to think of it, its all possible ...

Well, guess we will have to wait another 4 months ... such an eternity ... :blink:
 
verdantheart Posted on May 17 2003, 10:44 PM
There's reason for that fact to be concealed from Sydney, but if they found out that she fulfilled the prophecy and they were still concerned, wouldn't they have taken her into custody again?

There the writers go again...seemingly letting us :argue: the dropped "points" that were made a long the way. We analyze and think we might have answers...arrghh!

crazy spinster Posted on May 17 2003, 10:22 PM
are you saying that jack might be the person in rambaldi's prophecy?

Good point about Jack...that might explain (or not!) why Sloane is so interested in Jack joining him. He might know that Irina is not the one and that's why he double-crossed her throwing out of the loop as one might say. (And I hope that didn't mean, taking Irina out of the series)
Still there's a hopeful beat in my romantic :love: heart that she will be around to take care of Sydney as she moves forward to fulfilling the prophecy. (Sigh) :(

Four months is a hell of a long wait. :angry:
 
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