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Will current gase pricess kill the SUV?

Discussion in 'Open Chat' started by Kevin, Jun 20, 2008.

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  1. Yes, the days of the SUV are over.

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  2. No, the SUV will be around for some time.

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  3. Maybe, or at least for those who don't need them.

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    50.0%
  4. Don't know, don't care; it doesn't affect me.

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    12.5%
  1. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    With local gas prices already over $4.00/gallon and analyst predictions that we will not see a slow down until around $4.50/gallon, do you think that this will mean the end of the SUV? Or, at least, the end of the SUV for those that don't really need them?

    From the domestic manufacturers we have already seen GM & Ford announce drastic changes to their plans for truck production in the US. So-called "econo" cars are making a resurgence in the market to the point of people making a profit on older cars that have long since been discontinued. For the first time in years the Ford F-150 is not the best selling vehicle. GM is actually considering selling off the Hummer brand, possibly to Indian or Russian buyers. Hydrogen based cars are being tested by both Honda & Mazda.

    So is it all just short-sighted panic or is this the start of the change in how the US drives?
     
  2. Tom

    Tom An Old Friend

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    Just look at what is selling and what is not.
     
  3. Tim

    Tim Creative Writer

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    You guys aren't paying $12 a gallon like us!!!! Well, actually I think our gallon is just larger than yours.

    But when it comes down to it, the structure of a 4x4 used commonly as a school run vehicle for its safety might stay around, simply be replacing the engine with an alternative. Drop the power? No problem if you keep the assumed safety for your kids.
     
  4. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    The biggest problem with gas prices in the US is not the actual rate but the expedited time line in which prices increased several fold. If US petrol prices had risen at the same rate as our UK cousins then I think we would have seen alternative energy measures enacted long ago.
     
  5. Mojo

    Mojo Rocket Ranger

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    I originally said that the days of the SUV were over... but what if we all switched to electric cars? And what if, in forty or fifty years, fusion driven reactors made energy so inexpensive that you could cost-justify the additional weight and mass of an all-electric SUV?

    Or, to put it another way:

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  6. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    Darn it, I had to google that! The vehicle looks like a spare from the set of Damnation Alley but I don't recall ever watching Ark II.
     
  7. Mojo

    Mojo Rocket Ranger

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    Ark II was da bomb, as the kids say today. Really sort of advanced for its day... kind of like a Gamma World for 70's kids TV.

    But that's off-topic. Back on topic, I can safely say this: anyone buying a new SUV should probably be beaten with a stick. I cannot believe that the American auto industry didn't see the writing on the wall post-Katrina and totally revamp their production facilities to make less SUVs and more fuel efficient cars.

    It also kills me that 30 miles to the gallon is considered to be fuel efficient -- it was just, what, 15 years ago that the Geo Metro was getting 52 miles to the gallon? Why on earth are we putting up with ads like the Hummer 3 that boast of getting (gasp) twenty miles to the gallon???
     
  8. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    As somebody who switched from a small vehicle (Geo Tracker LSi) to an SUV (Jeep Grand Cherokee) just let me say that some vehicles just are not practical for everybody. Driving over 50+ miles a day to/from work along some major PA highways I was convinced that I was going to by killed in a Geo Tracker after getting caught in the draft of an 18-wheeler as it was flying by me. My commute these days is the same distance but is about 2/3rds on back roads that in winter time are useless with small econo-boxes. So the Cherokee it is for me.

    Now if my driving was limited to strictly in-town then the Geo might make more sense for me. And it was for exactly that reason that I donated the Geo to another family member who indeed only had in-town driving and very light winter driving.

    So far though my 2008 budget for repairs to the Cherokee is going to come close to my 2008 estimated gas costs. :banghead:
     
  9. awesomename

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    I realize that this threads been dead for a while, but I don't think SUV's are. Americans love large vehicles, some of them have a legitimate need for them. I think as they improve the mileage for them, sales will pick back up again.
     
  10. linrobinson

    linrobinson Your Ultimate Destiny Writer

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    I was bummed that "With any luck at all" wasn't a ballot choice.
     
  11. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    I think that sentiment would go in the "Yes" category. :p
     
  12. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    i was gonna say the same thing about the vehicle. looks alot like from damnation alley. gonna have to get that movie again.

    suv's will be here because we dont need them. if that makes sense.
     
  13. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    Makes perfect sense for many 'western' countries where purchases are often made based upon availability rather than need. It is also the explanation as to why many of the former Soviet-bloc countries are now seeing 'pimped out' Hummer H2s and half-million dollar 'super cars' on village roads alongside barely moving Yugos.
     
  14. Stid

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    Re: Will current gas pricess kill the SUV?

    There is a good chance it will kill many more vehicles than just the SUV... apparently prices are supposed to go up to at least 5.00 a gallon by the end of the year.
     
  15. Malak

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    We're already seeing SUV's being "chopped" down to cross-over choices. But, just like anything else useless, the rich will keep SUV's rolling.
     
  16. actionavenue

    actionavenue Artist, Cartoonist and Dude

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    Gas prices are still crazy, however, people have a love affair with big, expensive, fancy vehicles. My doctor, who will remain nameless, still has a Hummer. Think it is an H2. Anyway, people can justify spending any amount of money on their vehicles and the fuel that goes in such vehicles, provided it's in the budget. Now, I do agree with Malak's point of view that we are seeing more and more of the crossover car/SUV combinations and less of the Yukon and Range Rover type SUVs. I have heard a report on the one of the news stations that some of newer SUVs are getting better fuel mileage than sedans. Didn't catch the whole report, so I can't give examples of those SUVs (probably the crossover type vehicles one would assume). Anyway, I am glad that my commut to the office in our family car is only a couple miles or so. We have people in my office that travel in 30 and 40 miles. Would hate to have that gas bill! With all this talk about high priced fuel, the easy answer for everyone: buy a Smart Car. Not so fast. I dislike these cars immensely. Now the Mini Cooper is a different story. These cars at least have style. I would say the same for many of the Kia models and the Scion models also.
     

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