Nobody is arguing -- if they are, I missed it.Seth is a known liberal, I have seen it on family guy, and all his fun shows. On the Orville, he claims the future will have no capitalism, and he promotes same sex activities, it may be 2017, and half of America "thinks" its the norm, well the other half don't. I know I'm wasting my time arguing a subject with folks set in their ways, I'm cool with that. But the street goes both ways. I said multiple times, The silly series called Orville is "ok" I just don't dig the liberal goodies seeded in it. I just mute or fast forward it pass the felgercarb.......
Here is an interesting observation by moi, I noticed that both sides of the political spectrum are "worried" about loosing "ground" in their views, weather they are right or wrong, there is fear here. Remember there is always someone on top laughing at both sides..... Rock on Icky one....."less preachy" yet "similar to Christianity"
Do you see the irony?
It's also why I try to steer those topics away from the 'on topic' threads and move them off into their own threads like this one. If we're going to talk about politics then we might as well have the political topic in it's own self-contained "politics" thread instead of leaking over into random threads about tv shows, movies, books, or anything else. Religion doesn't come up very often around here but if/when it does it'll be handled the same way.I do not care to argue political correctness here, that's not why I come to Alien Soup
On that topic... there are days when, at 47, I'm not sure if I'm just old or if I'm slightly out of touch with what's going on in the world. Sometimes I see something and have to think "Wait, are... are they serious or is the humor/sarcasm too subtle even for me?".6-10 genders
Thanks Verna, I get's fired up like Yosemite Sam, LOL, Yehaw.You have Great taste....I do not care to argue political correctness here, that's not why I come to Alien Soup but I understand what sci-fi-dude was originally saying.
Try it this way, using original Trek as a center line/base (1967) each additional series gradually angles to the less traditional. It happens over more than 50 years but the last offering of the new Trek movie openly shows Sulu with a male partner. That is a long way from where Roddenberry began. His trek was about being inclusive yes, but in his day we didn't have 6-10 genders, some things were not only frowned upon they were illegal so when you think of conservative vs liberal much like Vger you have to go back to point of origin to get a full view. (2017)
A lot happened during that time frame. Personally I prefer grade B sci-fi as it was before 1981. Since then ehh!
Andy and Barney, and Gomer, a true classic.As for the 2 newest sci-fi space offerings, Orville and Trek, I watched the first episode and other than the special effects wasn't impressed by either. Of the 2, Orville might have been .0006 better. One is free to see, the other pay. If you enjoy them good for you.
I'd rather watch Mayberry reruns.
LOL, the feds are watching this folks, uh, ohhhhh.....Its all good Icky, I see this stuff on tv, and my thoughts about the left change, sorry, until people chill out, ill stay right, nothing on you icky, you seem cool..If they keep it up, us southern folke will go even further right, but I'm not here to argue with you, I consider you a friend.
I think Firefly is at heart a conservative show despite being written by someone who is supposed to be very progressive. This is a show that celebrates individual freedom above all else, attempting always to slip away from the vice-like grip of central authority. The fact that it is a western hones the point in even more. The crew of the Firefly, and the various outer planets where they have most of their dealings, exist in a setting where the reach of the law is short, very short. Every man is responsible for their own life and safety. That level of freedom is great, but so are the risks and responsibilities that come with it. And the thrust of the show, especially of the captain, Mal, is that this is an acceptable, and much more preferable way to live than to be safer within the stricter laws of the inner worlds where authority is consolidated. There might be greater 'civilisational' comforts and protection in the inner worlds, but there is also far greater intrusion by central authorities on the lives of the individual. And that is something that Mal can't countenance. "You can't take the sky from me... ."
In fact, the ethos of the show is decidedly libertarian. Pretty ironic.