noggi16 said:Well thats a complex political theory and one I'm not about to go in to, what I meant was you cannot judge his true legacy until he has left office.
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noggi16 said:This is why I'm glad I'm British because when we do satire we have Bremner Bird and Fortune.
I can sit and argue, logically on terms of current policy and ideology with supporters of all political parties, this is not reasoned debate. Fine you don't like it but to just make cartoons is wrong.
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noggi16 said:Strangley enough, I know that, like most other things we invented political satire, Lowe? anybody?
But we criticise policy occassionly foibles make it in, but only so we can recognise the satire, all this he's stupid, he's this he's that is nothing to do with the core reason people dislike him.
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how about this.. its the f***ing truth?AliasHombre said:I dont want to be mean.. So I wont. BUT THAT LINK IS AN UTTER LIE.
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in reference to an attack
the downing street memo
tends to suggest war was a foregone
conclusion by spring '02
People SAW the plane hit the building. You can't explain the dissapearence of a goddamned place.Itz tha Dreila said:how about this.. its the f***ing truth?
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AliasHombre said:People SAW the plane hit the building. You can't explain the dissapearence of a goddamned place.
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Ok, let me elaborate. My father knows people (pilots) who were in DC at the time and actually saw the jet crash into the building.Jamison said:Just to play devil's advocate then what about the many people who saw a much smaller plane? And what about how the damage was circular with no damage from the massive wing span? And the lapse in the security camera footage?
I'm not saying I believe in any of this silliness...but I do think there are unanswered questions as to what really happened.
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