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Discussion in 'Supernatural & Unexplained' started by painkiller64, Mar 13, 2009.

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  1. Yes-please explain

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  2. No-please explain

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  3. Maybe-i like to be in control of the suspense

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  4. I wish not to answer on grounds THEY wont like it

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  1. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    Just one of a series of questions i will pose. No answer will be right or wrong nor will you be judged for what you say here.

    just answer the following questions please.

    Do you believe? Yes/No

    Why did you answer this way?

    Have you experienced any abnormalities in regards to the question above? If Yes, then, In what way?

    Can you say for certain that any of the questions above has changed your views on how your life is to this point?

    There will be a simple yes or no post with each of these threads i post with also a couple of generic questions in there also.
     
  2. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    yes i believe. yes i believe i have seen a real ufo. no, no photo's

    simple, because i believe and that is all that matters to me.

    as i said above i believe i have seen a real ufo. i was 10 years old the first time and it was a saucer shaped one that flew over our house. my father and i were the only ones to see it and it sparked discussions for years to come.

    yes i think it has changed my life and how i live it now. the experience and belief has sparked my imagination and the yearning to learn more by reading and seeking others that possibly have seen one.
     
  3. Birdman

    Birdman Birdman

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    Yes I believe in UFO's
    I have seen three in my 33 years of life. I have no idea if they were alien in origin or not. The first one was a ball of spark and fire when I was 10 years old. It streamed across the night sky above our house and looked like a huge huge meteor except for the fact that it was really slow moving and also turned a couple of times like under control not just falling.
    The second one I saw when I was 25. It was hovering in the night sky maybe 5 miles away. Now this one was wierd and I believe this one was an ET craft. This id because it moved like no aircraft that we have that we know of. If literally defied the laws of physics. It would jump from a complete hover to points miles away in just a second or so. It was cool looking to say the least. I couldn't make out a shape, it just looked like a big orb that twinkled as it changed colors from blue to red to white to oreange then to green and then repeated again. The nearly instant transmission though from one point to another miles apart was the most incredible aspect though.
    The third one was nearly identicle to the second and was when I was 29. The only difference was that this one lasted only 15 or so minutes while the second lasted for 2 hours. I took some pics of sightings 2 and 3 but with it being at night and so far away the best ones just looked like a star, I needed video footage to really show details.
    The encounters have changed my life in that, now I believe in UFO's and without any evidence I truly believe some of them are Alien in nature.
     
  4. Webster

    Webster The Red Tarheel

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    Maybe.

    My answer is rooted in skepticism, premised on one simple thought:
    ---Do the same rules and/or laws of physics, celestial mechanics and space/time apply to UFO's(and the aliens presumably on them) as they apply to humans?

    If the answer is no, then we are dealing with physics far more advanced(and way more theoretical) than mankind has ever seen. If the answer is yes, then the questions beckon the human psyche..........why haven't they announced their presence?.........why hasn't one confirmable piece of alien evidence been presented to the press?.......etc., etc. I guess, in terms of whether they exist, I stand on the same philosophical grounds as the late astronomer/scientist Carl Sagan, who once opined,
     
  5. worldmaker

    worldmaker Producer/Screenwriter

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    Now, just lie back on this couch and tell me - exactly what do you mean by "believe"?

    I know there is a category of aerial/spacial phenomena categorised as "Unidentified Flying Object". Therefore there is no requirement to "believe" or disbelieve in the existence of such a category.

    I know there are some aerial/spacial phenomena that fall within that category on the grounds of not being currently "identified" at the time these phenomena were observed and within the limits of the method of observation.

    So, if a question, do I believe, is posed, I shall have to answer in the negative. I know.

    [​IMG]

    :cool:
     
  6. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    sometimes people out there cant see past the 2 dimensonal world they live in and cant get past that selfishness that there might just be something else out there.
     
  7. worldmaker

    worldmaker Producer/Screenwriter

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    But there are sufficient people in the world to look up and enjoy the heavens and all the wonders they offer us and our descendants.

    :)

    [​IMG]
     
  8. Anthony G Williams

    Anthony G Williams Greybeard Writer

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    Exactly so.

    Why anyone should jump to the conclusion that if aerial phenomena can't immediately be identified they must be alien spaceships baffles me. The vast majority of UFO reports turn out to have mundane explanations, the others simply haven't been identified. It is logical to assume, however, that they too have mundane explanations, since no-one's ever proved anything else.

    That does not mean to say that there are no other technological civilisations out there; given the vast numbers of star systems in this galaxy alone that must be regarded as highly probable. But there is no real evidence that any of them has ever visited Earth.
     
  9. worldmaker

    worldmaker Producer/Screenwriter

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    In February there was a wild report in the British press about a wind turbine being damaged one dark night, with the claims that it was a "UFO", or speculations on collision with some kind of stealth aircraft technology.

    After the hysteria had died down the interim report from the engineers suggest that it was the failure of one blade, its retaining bolts breaking off, causing it to fly out, damaging the second blade in the process.

    No UFO in sight.

    [​IMG]

    Unless it was a conspiracy......! :rolleyes:
     
  10. Anthony G Williams

    Anthony G Williams Greybeard Writer

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    Many years ago there was a programme on UK TV concerning a UFO sighting. A passenger on an internal flight had a cine camera and had been filming out of the window. When the film was developed, he had a shock: a small dot in the distance rapidly enlarged to a lens-shaped object which briefly hovered alongside the plane before rushing away again at incredible speed. The film was shown on TV and it was extremely convincing; the image was sharp and clear, and there were irregular white markings which could not be identified along the rim of the object. The cameraman was entirely credible and was shaken by it himself. I was also rather shaken, because I've never seen such convincing evidence for what looked like an alien craft.

    Fortunately the programme producer had an enquiring mind and was not disposed to jump to conclusions. He borrowed the man's camera, loaded it with the same type of film, and gave it to a professional cameraman who sat in the same seat of the same aeroplane following the same route, and started playing about with the camera. It wasn't long before he saw the same thing, and he discovered that he could make it come and go just by shifting position slightly.

    A close inspection of the window revealed what was happening: the window glass had a bevelled edge, and this was refracting a distorted image of the tailplane, making a section of it appear to be detached and floating in mid-air. The white markings around the rim were just where the paint had worn off on the leading edge of the tailplane. So as the camera lens was moved slightly to one side of the bevelled area, the "UFO" could be made to appear and disappear.

    That was a real object lesson, both in not believing what your eyes appear to be showing you, and in how to investigate such reports.
     
  11. StarJockey

    StarJockey StarJockey

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    I believe to such an extent that I will never be dissuaded that life exists elsewhere. However, 'flying' seems such a wasteful and inaccurate way of looking at our planet when other technologies might exist.
    AC Clarke and others have proved 'If you can think of it, you can make it exist' so how would YOU visit a planet 20 light years away? In a flying caravan? I don't think so.:alien:
     
  12. Anthony G Williams

    Anthony G Williams Greybeard Writer

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    It sounds to me that what you really believe in is not UFOs, but that life exists elsewhere. Well, I agree that that is almost certainly true (we can't be 100% certain until we find it). And while I suspect that technological civilisations might be very much rarer, and might not last for long, the universe is so vast that there are probably many of them at any one time.
     
  13. Daithi

    Daithi Modern Celtic Warrior

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    Can say that I ever seen one myself, but i do believe that UFO's exist... Now as to their origin - I think there are several possiblities:

    1) Life on other planets...
    2) Humanity was once more advance in antiquity and journeyed to the stars and have attempted returns throughout our history...
    3) Advanced military machines/weapontry...
    4) A combination of the previous three...

    Only time will tell...
     
  14. worldmaker

    worldmaker Producer/Screenwriter

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    Why not? If a craft can take any form, not needing to worry about aerodynamics in the vacuum of space, then a caravan is just as good a shape as any other.

    Unless you're a Top Gear enthusiast and you prefer to shoot a Robin Reliant Van up strapped to a space shuttle?

    :)
     
  15. Anthony G Williams

    Anthony G Williams Greybeard Writer

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    You missed by far the most obvious and common one:

    5) The observer misunderstood what he was seeing, due to errors of perception. About 95% of all claimed sightings hav e been shown to have entirely mundane, everyday explanations. For the other 5%, there is not enough information to make a clear judgment.
     
  16. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    so true. i guess our personal beliefs need to be backed by facts. i agree that misperception is a big part of the ufo phenom.
     
  17. Tom

    Tom An Old Friend

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    I believe that some flying objects are unidentified.
    I don't believe they are extraterrestrial beings visiting us from another place in the universe.
    They might be time traveling humans from the far future but that is unlikely as well.
     
  18. Alvin

    Alvin In Search of Truth

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    you must be a dreamer and have faith in mankind to believe in extraterrestrials.
     
  19. Alvin

    Alvin In Search of Truth

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    Comprehension and common sense helps when one believes they see or are part of a extra-terrestrial experience.
     
  20. Starbeast from Planet X

    Starbeast from Planet X Benevolent Galaxy Being

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    Yes, and I believe people are beginning to notice unidentified flying objects more often, even if NASA doesn't.















    Russia believes in U.F.O.s and trains it's troops in the event of a U.F.O. crash. When this footage was first obtained, people thought this was real, later it was deemed a soldier training film.


     

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