Aliens Do you believe in UFO's?

Do you believe in UFO's?


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Guest50131

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#41
Do you believe? Yes/No

I assume when you're referring to UFO's, you're not simply talking about Unidentified Flying Objects and are instead referring to alien spacecraft. Which I answer yes to.

Why did you answer this way?
I have worked professionally with the government on the technology recovered from them and seen them for myself.

Have you experienced any abnormalities in regards to the question above? If Yes, then, In what way?
no

Can you say for certain that any of the questions above has changed your views on how your life is to this point?
no
 
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#42
And finally the last part


Its becoming clear that planets are the norm round stars. Thre are about 200 billion billion stars in each galaxy, and about 200 billion billion galaxies in the universe. Thats staggering amount of planets. It is, to all intents infinite. In quantum theory, in an infinite universe, all possible events will occur. Its therefore perfectly reasonable to say that with an almost infinite number of planets, with every possible combination of star and planet size, composition, size, orbit and chemical makeup, that the idea we are the sole island of life in this infinite universe is less absurd mathematically than the proposition we are alone. Its just so unlikely, given the number of possible planets, its non starter as an idea.

Even with the concept of filters, enough intelligent life forms will make it to Kardshev Lvl 3 to make life numerous and plentiful.

Personally, I believe we are coming up to the first filter - One World Government. It conceivable planets annihilate themselves overcoming this first filter, in fact I think it highly likely. And note that planetary One World governments are the norm in science fiction !
 
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#44
Well, there we have the intelligence level of some of the members.

Since it was clearly outside your IQ to make an intelligent response to the thousand or so word post I made, then perhaps you picture was unnecessarily offensive?

Maybe thats why the post rate here isnt very high? People go to the trouble make worthy, intelligent posts and morons like you post idiot pictures, so we go away and find a smarter set of people to talk to?
 

Guest50131

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#46
And finally the last part


Its becoming clear that planets are the norm round stars. Thre are about 200 billion billion stars in each galaxy, and about 200 billion billion galaxies in the universe. Thats staggering amount of planets. It is, to all intents infinite. In quantum theory, in an infinite universe, all possible events will occur. Its therefore perfectly reasonable to say that with an almost infinite number of planets, with every possible combination of star and planet size, composition, size, orbit and chemical makeup, that the idea we are the sole island of life in this infinite universe is less absurd mathematically than the proposition we are alone. Its just so unlikely, given the number of possible planets, its non starter as an idea.

Even with the concept of filters, enough intelligent life forms will make it to Kardshev Lvl 3 to make life numerous and plentiful.

Personally, I believe we are coming up to the first filter - One World Government. It conceivable planets annihilate themselves overcoming this first filter, in fact I think it highly likely. And note that planetary One World governments are the norm in science fiction !
In my human body, there are 37.2 trillion cells. In one single cell there are 200 trillion atoms.

That's a staggering amount of cells. It is, by your definition infinite.

By my definition, it's a start.

As you look up to the stars and sky.

Do you not think something intelligent is looking back at you?

Why would you limit life to being of physical form only?

With infinite possible combinations of star and planet size, composition, size, orbit and chemical makeup alone, have you considered life forms looking at you which are outside your own perceptual sphere of awareness?

Lifeforms which might be leveraging the internet to chat with ya ;-)

I am not from Earth myself, I am a visitor here, and and am originally from a planet that is written about in your fiction to make you aware of me.

Gallifrey.

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Kevin

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#47
Well, this thread has taken a bit of a odd turn all around. :facepalm:

Well, that's the 2nd thing you've made to search for today. :cheers: I'm just not sure if Kardshev levels is something that was tucked away in the back of my head or if I've come across the explanations before under a different naming scheme.

Personally, I believe we are coming up to the first filter - One World Government. It conceivable planets annihilate themselves overcoming this first filter, in fact I think it highly likely. And note that planetary One World governments are the norm in science fiction !
With the state of the Middle East and Asia what are the signs that you believe are heading Earth having a One World Government in the forseeable future?
 
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#48
Well, this thread has taken a bit of a odd turn all around. :facepalm:


Well, that's the 2nd thing you've made to search for today. :cheers: I'm just not sure if Kardshev levels is something that was tucked away in the back of my head or if I've come across the explanations before under a different naming scheme.


With the state of the Middle East and Asia what are the signs that you believe are heading Earth having a One World Government in the forseeable future?

Ah now your getting into politics, and thats an entirely different discussion. In another existence im a political blogger and tweeter, 4300 twitter followers and 2000 blog subscribers. Believe me, World War and One World Government is coming. Many, many peopel agree.

The short version is false flag terrorism (mainly created by the US) is being used to get rid of democracy and civil rights. This is the declared aim of The Treaty of Rome, Islam, and Agenda21/Agenda 2030. All of which are being gleefully spread across the world by those in power. And lets not even get onto the Rothschild New World Order Plan, The Council of 13 Families, and the the Fractional Reserve Banking Scam, And lets not forget the Coudenhove Kalergi Plan and the Pan European. (lots of stuff for you to google and research) It all converges on One World Governerment. And historically ALL totalitarian states rise to power on the back of civil disorder and war.

OH and the Barcelona Declaration of 1995, which the EU managed to keep secret until a couple of years ago, which extends the EU Superstate into the Eurabian Superstate.

It would take many page of thread to comprehensively go thu all of these. But a good place to start is

"You dont think the Arab Spring was a spontaneous uprising of right minded arabs who suddenly saw the light about democracy, do you?"
 
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#49
Yes.
I have flip flopped many times on this.I have searched my brain database of past thoughts and experiences.
and appx-3-5 years ago, I would have sworn I saw three energy orbs or craft, that I knew very well at the time could not be
aircraft from Cols, Intl Airport which is appx 10 miles away.

But, after all the things that are occurring..the info dump of videos and documentaries..my own past,
I have indeed switched to the idea, that is in fact all real. True. And makes absolute sense to me now.

Many times I have thought I was being watched..many times. ( maybe I should be hypnotized and find out)
I have had the sensation that a ufo was watching me in my room.yet for many years , I had decided to not believe in them.

I feel awakened and real, and finally finding my truth.Our Truth. The Truth.


See this post for videos on this...if you have not seen them already.
Aliens - Incredilble Revelations-Aliens are real!
 

ByGoneYrs

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#50
Do you believe? Yes/No
Yes

Why did you answer this way?

I have three situations that I can speak on:
1st) Back when Rosewell 1947 UFO event happened, my father was a Company commander of a SeeBees that was there building. His company had to fan out and walk a region of area twelve times and pick up small metal/foil elements that ranged in different sizes over a two mile area. He believe is was wreckage of something that crashed and splintered all over the search area. He never saw a ship or crew, just this stuff that was super light but extremely strong. He had a large piece that was concave in shape and had a halftrack run over that piece and it did not crush under that weight. He also reported strange symbols on some pieces, but they collected what they found and that stuff was taken away. They were told to never ever speak about the event on threat of extreme trouble and national security.
2nd) My brother was a B52 Pilot/Weapons Defense Officer in the Air Force. He was a SAC Bomber Flight Commander at the time and they were doing a practice flight of B52s. They had something up at the north pole fly up to their Bomber Flight and this object was bigger than all the flight of B52s together and I believe they were five B52s. The object followed them and flew around them and above them and was faster than them and huge. It was night time so they did not really see the object clearly, but could see its shape and it appeared on radar as well. Basically disk shape, it was never really reported beyond Air Force intelligence.
3rd) When I was a teenager I lived near a Air Force Base. Where I lived there was very few night lights, so looking up at the night time sky was a great view at night under a moonless sky. One night walking home late, I heard the air raid sirens going off. I say from my view on the side of a large hill over-viewing the base a flight of SAC Delta Darts scrambling and taking off. I looked up into the night sky to see a "dot" that was brighter than anything else in the sky and it was moving unlike stars. I saw the Delta Darts angle up after that light and saw the light make a 90 degree turn and go in a different direction. I next saw a 3rd Delta Dart take off and also join in the others up there and try to pinch this object. After the 3rd Delta Dart had joined the encounter, I then say the light shoot straight up out of sight. The three Delta Darts were left in the dust. I had the chance a few days latter to talk to a fried whom was in the Air Force on that base as a MP and he confirmed what I saw was what was seen by him whom was on Guard Duty that night on the flight line.

Have you experienced any abnormalities in regards to the question above? If Yes, then, In what way?
see my above answers

Can you say for certain that any of the questions above has changed your views on how your life is to this point?
I feel there are many things that have happened that our government is hiding from us. I have had a couple of other situations that make me feel they are hiding things and I believe that UFOs are real. Now do I believe everything I hear ...NO. I am willing to be open and listen to a matter and willing to give everything a chance, call me open minded.
 
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#51
Someone said earlier that Politics was a different discussion. It isnt.

First, you have to realise there are nefarious, evil things taking place and being plotted, espcially by the 'Global Elite', the 0.3% of the population who own 40% of the planets resourse and wealth. These people believe they are descended from gods, and have the right to rule us all. Once you realise the increduble plot they have to create totalitarian One World Government, served by a mixed race slave poulation, the entire concept of aliens fits in.

Questions people ask in clude 'why havent the aliens made contect' and 'why dothey hide'. Well, actually, if you consider there has been 1 million UFO sightings since 1947, and about 1 million people worldwide claim they have been abducted by aliens, then you realise aliens themselves are not hiding. What is happening is the people in charge are determined to deny and hide the fact.

So, I think we already made contact, in about 1956. I think the global elite saw this as a chance to consolidate world power. They made an agreement, the Greada Treaty, to trade people for tech. The aliens reneged on the deal. There is some evidence including eye witness testimony of ex USAAF personnel, to this effect.

I think several crashed alien ships have been recovered, by the Americans, the Russians and the Chinese. I think these craft are being reversed engineered, and Area 51 is where the americans are trying to reproduce the technology.

Now, you have to ask yourselves, why would they keep all this secret? Wouldnt it be marvellous to show the rest of mankind that in fact we are not alone?

One concludes, bearing in mind the devious, evil conduct of those in charge, that there is a nefarious reason they keep it hidden. I think, as part of thier plan to control the world, they will at some point, stage a fake alien invasion, using earth built reverse engineered alien craft. This is not as crazy as it sounds. False flag attacks have been used throughout history by evil people, eg the fake attack by Poland staged by Hitler to enable him to invade in 1939.

The biggest problem the Global elite have is democracy. They need to get rid of it to rule the world. In Europe, they are using the EU to slowly, surreptitiously, steal the freedom, democracy and soveriegnty of the member states. Make no mistake, those in charge in the EU can use thier aquired legal powers to turn the entire EU into a police state overnight when they deem they have to - read the Lisbon Treaty, for example.

America is much harder. Americans have guns, Americans can fight back, SO, a false flag attack, an old strategy used many times in the past, will work. Stage a fake alien invasion, and you can legitimately suspend democracy, and turn USA into a police state as well.

SO yes, the Aliens are here. They may be in collusion with the Global Elite in this plan, they may not, I dont know And this entire theory has some basis in fact and circumstatial evidence.

Remember, Goebbels said if you are going to lie , make the lie so big its not possible to disbelieve it. The denial of alien life and alien contact is probably the biggest lie ever told by one group of humans to another, ever

And i also point out - 200 billion stars in the galaxy, about 1 trillion galaxies., an average of 2 planets per star. To believe we are the only sentient beings in the universe at those odds is absurd.

The problem is Kardashev Levels, and Filters. It could be the entire scenario ive outlined above is in fact a Kardashev Filter that many civilisations go through, and most perish as a result of the resulting war. Thats why superintelligent beings, Kardashev Level 1 and above are much rarer than sub kardashev creatures.

Based on USAAF personnel testimony, I think there are at least three different alien races round us. I think one race the Greys, are inherently evil. The other two are benign. Unfortunately, the Greys got here first, made and broke the Greada Treaty. The reason we get crashed UFO's is mainly due to conflict between these three races.

Note i have been reading and observing politics, science and paranormal for almost 50 years, these observations and conclusions were not arrived at without much evidence, investigation and reasoning.

 
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Kevin

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#52
America is much harder. Americans have guns, Americans can fight back, SO, a false flag attack, an old strategy used many times in the past, will work. Stage a fake alien invasion, and you can legitimately suspend democracy, and turn USA into a police state as well.
So the world leaders, in power using alien tech & having full knowledge of aliens including past agreements, will stage a fake alien attack to be able to get the US be a controlled police state willingly?

Just a few things come to mind...

Many will argue the US is already a police state following the events of 2001. There is very little that the *common* US citizen does these days that can't be monitored & tracked.

Yes, the US "have guns", but if an alien ship landed in parts of Russia, Africa, or middle-east they'd be in far more trouble then if they had landed somewhere gun heavy like the US south. In the US the alien ships would need to defend themselves from people taking potshots with guns, in other parts of the world they'd need to worry about rocket launchers and bigger.
 
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#53
Oh yes, i concur. We in the UK were disarmed decades ago, were a soft target.

The false flag attack would be by americans against americans. The object is to remove democracy, and an 'alien' invasion is the perfect excuse, Martial law could be declared with little opposition.

Once democracy has been suspended, they can then set about consolidating. The object is One World government, remember. If The EU Superstate was combined with the US Police State, you have the Atlantic Superstate, the largest political power block the world has ever seen. Africa, India and Middle East are already being assimilated. The Eu, for example, made a secret agreement 10 years ago (now public) to give Eu citizenship to 50 million North Africans in exchange for control of territory and resouces.

Thus stage 3, USA + EU + africa + ME + India. This basically gives them then the ability to say to the Russians and Chinese "Capitulate or WW3". I have no idea what will happen then.

Somewhere in all this, there is alien tech, and maybe actual aliens. with superior alien tech, the NWO could be confident of winning WW3

Do aliens need to conquer Earth? No, they dont. What for? We have nothing they need, and even if we did., there millions of uninhabited planets, moons and asteroids chock full of resources, that are much easier to grab. There is already an asteroid mining company, surveying possible targets, they have discovered an asteroid ten Km across with more gold in its rocks than has been mined on earth, ever.

The only resource we have, they cant get anywhere else, is us. Humans. Now, what they might use us for can only be guessed at - food, slavery, or medical/sceintific experiments. Maybe this is why 1 million people have reported abduction experiences. They cant all be dreaming or imagining it.

Maybe the NWO made a deal, "Help us conquer the planet, help yourself to a million humans". Its not entirely a fantastic idea, especially if you accept the NWO OWG plot. And thats why they wouldnt want us to know the aliens were here.

If you think thats unbelievable, check the UN's Agenda 21, the underlying plan of the Climate Change scam. It proposes a CULL of humans to 1 billion people living in 50 megacities of 20 million people.
 
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#55
All the pieces are there, All you have to do is open your eyes and check. Everything ive posted ive found evidence for over 30 years. But they rely on people like you, The lie is so big, you dont have the imagination to see it. You really dont think theres a limit to evil, do you?

BTW, as for 'conspiracy theory' i can list 15 so called conspiract theories that were laughed at, that turned out to be true.

Mulder said, "the truth is out there", and it is. But they rely on disbelief, and your reluctance to check.
 

ByGoneYrs

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#56
@ Edgar J Hoover I would climb off your high horse before someone knocks you off. I have seen you be rather rude and very condescending to a number of others, don't pull that felgercarb with me! You have no idea "whom" I am or "what" I might know. I treat everyone with respect as long as they do the same, so maybe you should drop the condescending attitude and try treating everyone with mutual respect. Remember opinions are like a$$h@le$ everyone has one, but some people have bigger ones than others.
 
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#57
If you want to dismiss aliens, then you need to come up with credible explanations for the following, to start with:

1. Roswell, and the subsequent cover up
2. Kenneth Arnold incident 1947
3.Washington DC UFO 1952, 1000's eye witness, radar tracks
4. The Barney and Betty Hill abduction, 1961
5. Rendlesham Forest Encounter 1949
6. Tombaugh sighting 1949
7. Shag Harbour Lights 1967
8. Maury island incident 1947
9 Westell encounter 1966
10 Lonnie Zamora sighting 1964
11 Carson Sink incident 1952
12 Sao Paulo sighting 1986
13 Jimmy Carter sighting
14 Lubbock lights 1951
15 1989-90 Belgian UFO flap
16 Yeni Kent Compund 2008
17 Berwyn Mountians 1974
18 1970 Captian William Schaffner incident
19 1942 Los Angeles UFO battle
20 1997 Phoenix lights
21 1991 Pine Bush sighting
22 Cataline USOS 1947
23 Lake Titicaca USOS
25 Lake Eirie 1996
26 The McMinnville UFO photographs
27 The body in the Aurora, TX cemetery, 1897
28 1950's Warminster UFO flap
29 The Broadhaven visitor, 1977
30 1941 Missouri UFO crash and retrieval
31 1948 Mantell death
32 1948 Gorman UFO dogfight
34 1949 Norwood Ohio sightings (10 encounters, including movie footage and photographs)
35 1953 Phillip Moncla dissapearance (vanished chasing a UFO)
36 The Gill New Guinea encounter 1959
37 The 1965 Keksberg UFO crash]
38 The Delphos, Kansas, UFO landing ring 1971
39 Pascagoula, Mississippi abduction, 1973
40 1975 Travis Walton abduction
41 Loring Air Force Base sightings 1975
42 The Tehran UFO jet chase and dogfight 1976
43 1978 Valentich dissapearance
44 1980 Cash Landrum encounter
45 1987 Gulf Breeze sightings.
46 Mexican Air force UFO chase 2004

Theres a whole wodge of Commercial airline Pilots reported them:
1986 JAL flight 1628
1989 Andrew Danziger
2007 Captain Bowyer and the Gurnsey UFO
1995 Bariloche Incident
1948 Chiles Whitted case
1952 Nash Fortenberry sighting
1954 BOAC Labrador incident
1952 Washington Spring incident - many pilots reporting, plus radar tracks.
1995 Westlands Airlines flight 564 incident

These amount to about 5% of the 0.1% of the 1,000,000
UFO sightings since 1947 that are some of the hardest to explain unless you accept these are alien craft.

And I havent even started on the dozens of declassified FBI files evidence, or the hundreds of encounters videod by NASA
 

Tom

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#58
So, kinda like the old saying "The Greatest Thing The Devil Ever Did Was Convincing The World He Doesn't Exist".
I think there's a movie in here somewhere?
 
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#60
See, this is the reaction they count on. You dont believe, but you cant disprove, so you ridicule. Its pathetic. You just demonstrated why I dont normally waste time explaining what I believe to dimwits. It gives me a headache just trying to think down at your level.

BTW i have Aspergers. I expend far more effort and time in ascertaining the probable truth than most of you put together.
 
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