Sci-Fi Doctor Who (2005-2021) [NuWho]

The past few episodes we are starting to see the end of Clara as the Doctor's companion.
Well, it looks like somebody had a change of heart.

Before the winter break it looked like Clara's time as the companion had come to an end. It was a dark conclusion to Clara's time but other companions have had it far worse.

With the recent Christmas episode the Doctor and Clara ended up resolving their differences once it was revealed that they both lied to each other the last they met which, of course, was a Doctor Who version of the The Gift of the Magi story. Now Jenna Coleman has confirmed that she'll be back for at least one more season with Capaldi.

Theories? I'm thinking that originally the reboot with Capaldi was going to be a full wiping of the slate for a fresh start but that Coleman's episodes with Capaldi were received better than expected by the fans so some quick negotiating went on.
 
BBC America has announced that deals have been placed to keep Doctor Who going at least another 5 years. No word on if that means deals with the current producers/writers/actors are in place, so far just that the series itself will still be going for another 5 years.

2020... personally I'm in a bit of shock with writing dates like "2020". Watching/reading s works growing up about what the future of 2020 will look like versus the fact that it is just 5 years away, there is a bit of some comprising that needs to take place. :D
 
Capaldi sucks as the Doctor, but then I also thought Matt Smith sucked, but that might have been due to some dire scripts he had to wade through.
 
Came across this whilst posting stuff on my own site....

The Doctor (Peter Capaldi) and Clara Oswald (Jenna Coleman) are back for season nine of Doctor Who -- and this time, they have a mysterious guest star in the form of Game of Thrones' Maisie Williams. The long-running family-friendly sci-fi series will return to BBC America on September 19.

 
I actually haven't seem them before, thanks for the links. Usually the BBC UK stuff for Doctor Who is regionally restricted for viewing in the States.


 
Both of the first two S9 episodes have referenced 'Classic Who' which I am liking. (y)

I'm not sure about Missy as The Master.

And...
... if the Doctor was dying, wouldn't you think he'd leave his 'will' to somebody like River Pond instead of The Master? I mean, after all, not only is River his wife but she is also half-Gallifreyan. And, after all, he is a Time Lord, he could've left the will to any of those who have traveled with him over the years. :coffee:
 
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So the real question is....

How many times has the Doctor tried saving Clara with this same sequence?

How many times has he relived the last 8 billion years in a time loop, creating Doctor Who the TV series 50 years ago, and then discovering her and then repeating the same events.

over.

and over.

and over.

and now he sits at the end of time writing stories.

Stories most cannot fathom are far from fiction...

over and over again.

Trying to get her to come back to life...

Maybe what he's going to discover in the next few seasons is that she's the Master.

The one he demonized and didn't understand his entire life.
 
How many times has the Doctor tried saving Clara with this same sequence?
What gets me is that of all of the companions the Doctor has had (or at least the ones known to us) I never really felt that there was as close of a connection with Clara as opposed to, say for example, Sarah Jane or Leela. Even in the 'New Who' series I think there was a stronger bond with Amy Pond than Clara. I get the whole "Impossible Girl" thing and that made for some interesting retconning of the Doctor Who history, I just don't think she was 'the one' to have caused the Doctor to do what he did in the finale.

The cynic in me can't help but think that the 'somewhat happy ending' with Clara was forced upon the writers to appease the Clara fans.
 
What gets me is that of all of the companions the Doctor has had (or at least the ones known to us) I never really felt that there was as close of a connection with Clara as opposed to, say for example, Sarah Jane or Leela. Even in the 'New Who' series I think there was a stronger bond with Amy Pond than Clara. I get the whole "Impossible Girl" thing and that made for some interesting retconning of the Doctor Who history, I just don't think she was 'the one' to have caused the Doctor to do what he did in the finale.

The cynic in me can't help but think that the 'somewhat happy ending' with Clara was forced upon the writers to appease the Clara fans.

I think Clara's an avatar for a developing Timelord mind, the same mind that has been in every companion the Doctor has had prior to then, including Rose, including Amy, and so on.

The hint for that was 'The Matrix' reference in this last episode.

I'm of the opinion The Master' could be a Jekyll and Hyde of sorts, who can appear simultaneously to his Jekyll/Hyde Doctor's companion counterpart because he/she/it is a time traveler.

/OR/ The TARDIS herself has gained some sanity and actually IS The Master AND/OR Clara.

So yes, I agree. The bond isn't incredibly close with Clara, but she epitomizes what the Doctor is and has been looking for in a partner, which is longevity in a relationship - a long term partner and companion to play with and gallivant through space and time with for more than a couple years.

Clara certainly seemed 'up' for this, overly enthusiastic, in fact, but there's something missing between her and the Doctor. Something primal. Try as she might to kiss him, or to get him to kiss her in this last few appearances, she just isn't attracted to him in that form.

I wouldn't be surprised to see the next few years take the show in new directions of becoming a more adult oriented with potentially explicit sexual content in the next few years.

Also, with numerous appearances of the Doctor and his counterparts in and around the California/Nevada/Arizona area, I suspect they are setting the stage for an American version of Doctor Who.

We do, after all, have two TARDISes now, and one with a functional chameleon circuit.

Perhaps they are leading to the creation of a BBC America version of Doctor Who featuring the ladies and a more mature - middle aged man rather than an older or younger man? A love interest for the Master in whatever form she appears, and an opportunity for the Doctor to 'cross over' to the states to interact with his counterpart?

In any case, take the series in it's entirety - all 50 years for the lesson here.

The Doctor's repeatedly discussed how time moves differently for him versus others and how people 'lose their minds and memories' of world saving events merely a day later.

For the first time since Jack Harkness, you have an immortal, and for the first time you have an immortal who's actually learned over time from the Doctor and accepted who she is and merely wants to play a role with a time traveler. She doesn't seem to care who it is. She preferred the Doctor because he introduced her to the concepts to begin with, but since he's so antagonistically against long term companionship and prefers fighting monsters and evil over enjoying the sights, Clara /err/ the Master may be a perfect counterpart.

Now they just need a man.

Now would you watch that show?

An American guy + Clara's avatar in an American female form + Me traveling space and time in Doctor Who, America?.

I know I would.

Heck. I'd write myself in as that main character.

Then again. if I could choose my women and could go anywhere in space and time, it just might become highly pornographic. The censors would love me, that's for sure.

My advice is to not compare Clara against the Doctor's prior companions.

The Doctor's clearly changed from who he was with them.

Not just in form, but in age and experience as well.

So can his needs and desires for companions.

Just like yours. In real life.

Wouldn't you freak out to find out the man is real?
 
@Q The First Timelord Well, there's always been multiple TARDIS's in the Who verse. When the Doctor first fled Gallifrey he stole a TARDIS but not the TARDIS. In the 'Classic Who' era The Master's TARDIS, with working Chameleon Circuit, was often seen.

As for the show taking on a more 'adult' nature, I don't think that's going to happen since the BBC started it as a kids program and for the most part that is still their categorization of it.
 
@Q The First Timelord Well, there's always been multiple TARDIS's in the Who verse. When the Doctor first fled Gallifrey he stole a TARDIS but not the TARDIS. In the 'Classic Who' era The Master's TARDIS, with working Chameleon Circuit, was often seen.

As for the show taking on a more 'adult' nature, I don't think that's going to happen since the BBC started it as a kids program and for the most part that is still their categorization of it.

Personally, I long suspected the previous incarnations of the TARDIS were nothing more than the same TARDIS the Doctor used all along, remember the TARDIS can cross it's own timeline so the TARDIS isn't going to freak out at seeing newer (or older) versions of itself.

With the Doctor not knowing fully how the TARDIS works he thinks he chameleon circuit is broken, when I suspect the chameleon circuit was quasi functional all along - adjusting itself with the times.

Which you have to admit, the Doctor's paranoia has been persistent. everything he doesnt understand is a monster or enemy, and he's not always been in control of the TARDIS.

As for the material in Doctor Who being aimed at children. Educational, yes, but for children?

Sure, if you are trying to give your children nightmares.

Doctor Who has ALWAYS been firmly aimed at the adult audience.

And if the rest of the BBC's lineup is a 'tell' to the direction the network is heading - more risque, more adult, and more sex and mature stories, then I can guarantee you the Doctor's gonna be sexually motivated in the next season. The last few seasons have been more than suggesting this is where things are heading.

Now how would you react if you learned the show was all true and real?

Not just fictional?

I'm curious ;-)

Don't respond to that question if it is beyond your capacity to imagine that.
 
As for the material in Doctor Who being aimed at children. Educational, yes, but for children?
Yes, children. As far as the UK is concerned it's a kids show. Just because something has dark tones & story lines doesn't mean it can't be for kids.
Doctor Who has ALWAYS been firmly aimed at the adult audience.
Um, no. Not only is it considered a kids program but it has won numerous awards over the years in that category.
Now how would you react if you learned the show was all true and real?

Not just fictional?

I'm curious ;-)
That may be a topic best for it's own thread. ;)
Don't respond to that question if it is beyond your capacity to imagine that.
No reason to insult me in order to engage me.
Personally, I long suspected the previous incarnations of the TARDIS were nothing more than the same TARDIS the Doctor used all along, remember the TARDIS can cross it's own timeline so the TARDIS isn't going to freak out at seeing newer (or older) versions of itself.
So one TARDIS shared by all of the time-travelling Time Lords of Gallifrey? How exactly do you see that playing out? All of the Time Lords are crossing either other's time lines?
 

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