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Season 2 Irina Derevko

Discussion in 'Alias' started by Nad, Jan 27, 2003.

  1. Nad

    Nad Rocket Ranger

    Dec 13, 2002
    Not once seen in Part1. I would really like to see what her opinion was in this whole Alliance take-over. Do you think she still has connections with Sark? Would she want this huge turn of events to occur?
  2. Azhria Lilu

    Azhria Lilu Rocket Ranger

    Nov 18, 2002
    Derbyshire, UK
    We will probably find out this Sunday - and I can't wait :)
  3. AliasALIAS

    AliasALIAS Guest

    After The Passage Part II, I believed that Irina was good. But my suspicions of her have been lifted. Maybe she was part of the plan to take down the Alliance, because Sark couldnt have planned everything with Sloane so fast and by themsleves...
  4. lothargriffs

    lothargriffs Ensign

    Dec 15, 2002
    Yeah, up 'till how she didn't seem suprised at any of the events.. until "the getaway"
    when she was working with jack, she guessed that sloane might have purposly set everything up, but she wasn't sure. i think we have finally reached the point where irina doesn't know everything.
  5. twinzz2003

    twinzz2003 Rocket Ranger

    Dec 13, 2002
    And I thought last week was the longest week in history!!! I think this one will be!!! :redhair:
  6. Tex

    Tex Captain

    Jan 8, 2003
    It will be really interesting to see how Irina fits into this ever twisting plot. There are so many possibilities!

    After last night's ep, I became a little more suspicious of Irina. Sark at SD-6 and Irina at CIA,etc.-coincidental? Maybe, but maybe not.

    However, the more I think about it, Irina being in cahoots with Sloan and Sark just seems too obvious in my opinion.

    So, I go back and forth because I can't help but believe (based on what we've seen) that Irina does care for Jack and Syd. I would hope that if she was still in contact with Sark that she would not allow the killing of Francie knowing that it would hurt Syd.

    I really want to learn more about Irina's thoughts on Sloan. Did he play a part in her leaving? Does he believe she is the woman indicated in the prophecy?

    Are Sark and Irina playing Sloan?

    Ultimately, I hope that we see some family Bristow joining together to kick the felgercarb out of Sloan and all the other baddies!
  7. vaughnmyangel

    vaughnmyangel Rocket Ranger

    Jan 4, 2003
    ya I was more suspiciou also but I really like irina and hope she is not bad. I really think that there is someone who sark is working for but who is the real question. I mean there has to be this higher power
  8. lenafan

    lenafan Rocket Ranger

    Jan 22, 2003
    So. California
    Question: Does Irina KNOW the Prophecy? Page 47 is supposedly in the hands of CIA/FBI. Sloane never did get to see that page. Did Irina? Why hasn't the feds done anything about this? Syd was cleared, so that leaves just Irina. Are there more devious plot turns coming up. I would not like to bet against them not happening.
    Since Lena Olin signed to do 16 episodes as Irina and has appeared in 9 that I know of, possibly 10, so that leaves 6 or 7 of the final 9 she's in, so she might not be in the next one either.
  9. verdantheart

    verdantheart Guest

    Haladki knew the Prophecy, so Irina probably does too.
  10. sycofancy

    sycofancy KGB

    Dec 18, 2002
    It would make so much sense that Irina was in on this plot from the beginning. She wanted to see th Alliance taken down so she could come to power, but she had no way of doing this in hidding. She had to find someway to get access to information and resources, enter the CIA. She had to have known she could get to Jakc and Syd, and trick them into helping her. She was after all the person that cracked echelon, she was the person who got the latest Rambaldi artifacts and so on. So who is to say that she was only giving this information to the CIA but to Syd, who would be forced to bring some of it to SD-6 and right into Sarks hands?

    Bottom line no one as cold as Irina can be good.
  11. Victoria King

    Victoria King Rocket Ranger

    Jan 21, 2003
    i think that she is still her cruel self, except when it comes to sydney, i dont think she is lying about that! i would love to see her reaction to syd and vaughn because after all for a while she was playing matchmaker between them(which was sweet but weird because she did kill his dad!) Tex, very interesting if sark and irina were playing sloane, i would love that!! but then of course they would start their own organization which would be more powerful than sloane's.
  12. Double Agent

    Double Agent Rocket Ranger

    Dec 19, 2002
    Michael Vartan's bed ;)
    Jack always warned them that she was only there to benefit herself. and that she didn't turn herself in becuase she wanted to help them. but i agree, she seems to be cruel, except around Syd. then again, she needed someone to trust her..and syd has always wanted a mother..she was an easy target..well you know the story. hmm..i guess we'll find out on sunday. damn only having alias on once a week. why is it not on EVERYDAY???
  13. AshXF

    AshXF Scout

    Jan 27, 2003
    very miniscule spoiler:

    I don't think Irina will be in this week's ep either, from what I've read she will be in Langley identifying voices in recordings in exchange for being able to see Syd graduate.

    I agree with most of what was said above, that Irina was behind the plot but perhaps not the whole thing. Sark seems to have alot of leeway, she may have told him a specific task to get done, but left to his discretion how to do it. I think the whole Francie thing was Sloane and Sark's doing, probably without Irina's knowledge, since it would serve her any purpose, but to have someone watching Syd would serve Sloane's purpose alot.

    Think of the situation like this, when 3 armies of equal manpower and firepower meet on a battlefield, it will be a stalemate 3 ways unless two forces join together against a third one. Then the final two can be left to duke it out. Between the CIA(and other good guys sponsored nationally), Alliance, K-Directorate and the Man, it was something of a stalemate with too many players on the feild.

    If Rambaldi's prophecy is correct, and the man has never been wrong, Irina will render a great power into desolation, bring forth his works, and use them in anger and fury. Well, the Alliance is down for the count. This is after she and her errand boy Sark side with enemies, she with CIA and he with Alliance, to take down the common enemy. Now that the Alliance is down, I predict that Irina will either escape (for which I'm sure she's planned) or continue to aid the CIA in tracking other bad guys until only her own organization is left. Then she WILL escape and resume control, hopefully by then the Rambaldi puzzle will be solved.

    Another minor spoiler:

    Sloane will kidnap a scientist and order him to construct the Rambaldi device from the collected peices.

    Sloane probably believes he is working with Sark, believing Irina is gone or hiding. I figure they are playing him the way he played the Bristows and the Alliance. He'll have the device finished about the time Irina shows up and the prophecy will be fulfilled.

    What about Sydney? I tuly think Irina DOES love her daughter, because (Spoiler) in the same episode with the scientist, Syd comes to tell her she's thinking about quitting the CIA, which means she'll loose clearance to see Irina. Irina will then tell her to do it, quit and go have a life, and if Syd won't, then Irina won't talk to her anymore. It would seem Irina wants her kid out of the line of fire.

    The "vulgar cost" mentioned in the prophecy might well be Sydney, Irina may have to choose what's more important to her, her daughter or global domination.

    Just a theory of course.

  14. Tex

    Tex Captain

    Jan 8, 2003
    Me too! I hope Syd tells her.

    Hmmm...very interesting!

    I wonder if Sloan knows that Irina is in CIA custody.

    It sure seems like Sark would know about Irina being in the custody of the CIA even if Irina was not the one to tell him. He seems like he would figure this out being that he knows Jack and Syd are working for the CIA and Irina is missing.
  15. SiriCerasi

    SiriCerasi Rocket Ranger

    Dec 8, 2002
    Hmm actually i think its a good thing she wasnt in this ep since leno olin is only cast for 16 eps so this is one more she wasnt in before she is gone for good. If that makes any sense... :blink:
  16. Victoria King

    Victoria King Rocket Ranger

    Jan 21, 2003
    i agree, i love her character, i really want to know if she is good or evil, i think her character flip-flops between the two, in actuallity she is evil but i think she does love sydney or just wants her to be happy(i mean otherwise why would she be soo interested if Vaughn loves her?)unless it is all just a plan!

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