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  1. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    i got this from greyfalcon.us

    curious what all would say. i couldnt help but laugh at this when i read it.

    Alien Presence on the Moon?

    Is there an "Alien Base" on the Moon? More and more people are coming forward with stories of an Alien presence on the Moon. Rumors say that there is an Alien Moon Base on the far side of the moon, the side we never see from Earth.

    Did you ever wonder why the Moon landings stopped and why we have not tried to build a Moon Base? It does seem like a better and easier idea than a floating space station with no access to any raw materials or supplies? According to the NASA Astronaut Neil Armstrong the Aliens have a base on the Moon and told us in no uncertain terms to get off and stay off the Moon!

    Sound far fetched?

    Milton Cooper a Naval Intelligence Officer tell us that not only does the Alien Moon Base exist but the U.S. Naval Intelligence Community refers to the Alien Moon Base as "Luna", that there is a huge mining operation going on there, and that is where the Aliens keep their huge mother ships while the trips to Earth are made in smaller "flying saucers".


    “LUNA: The Alien base on the far side of the Moon. It was seen and filmed by the Apollo Astronauts. A base, a mining operation using very large machines, and the very large alien craft described in sighting reports as mother ships exist there.”

    ~Milton Cooper in Apollo 11 Encounter UFOs on the Moon? from the Book "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good


    Did Apollo 11 Encounter UFOs on the Moon?
    from the Book "Above Top Secret"
    by Timothy Good


    According to hitherto unconfirmed reports, both Neil Armstrong and Edwin "Buzz" Aldrin saw UFOs shortly after that historic landing on the Moon in Apollo 11 on
    21 July 1969. I remember hearing one of the astronauts refer to a "light" in or on a carter during the television transmission, followed by a request from mission control for further information. Nothing more was heard.

    According to a former NASA employee Otto Binder, unnamed radio hams with their own VHF receiving facilities that bypassed NASA's broadcasting outlets picked up the following exchange:

    NASA: What's there? Mission Control calling Apollo 11...

    Apollo: These "Babies" are huge, Sir! Enormous! OH MY GOD! You wouldn't believe it! I'm telling you there are other spacecraft out there, Lined up on the far side of the crater edge! They're on the Moon watching us!

    In 1979 Maurice Chatelain, former chief of NASA Communications Systems confirmed that Armstrong had indeed reported seeing two UFOs on the rim of a crater. "The encounter was common knowledge in NASA," he revealed, "but nobody has talked about it until now."

    Soviet scientists were allegedly the first to confirm the incident. "According to our information, the encounter was reported immediately after the landing of the module," said Dr. Vladimir Azhazha, a physicist and Professor of Mathematics at Moscow University. "Neil Armstrong relayed the message to Mission Control that two large, mysterious objects were watching them after having landed near the moon module. But his message was never heard by the public - because NASA censored it."

    According to another Soviet scientist, Dr. Aleksandr Kazantsev, Buss Aldrin took color movie film of the UFOs from inside the module, and continued filming them after he and Armstrong went outside. Dr. Azhazha claims that the UFOs departed minutes after the astronauts came out on to the lunar surface.


    Maurice Chatelain also confirmed that Apollo 11's radio transmissions were interrupted on several occasions in order to hide the news from the public. Before dismissing Chatelain's sensational claims, it is worth noting his impressive background in the aerospace industry and space program. His first job after moving from France was as an electronics engineer with Convair, specializing in telecommunications, telemetry and radar. In 1959 he was in charge of an electromagnetic research group, developing new radar and telecommunications systems for Ryan. One of his eleven patents was an automatic ãflights to the Moon. Later, at North American Aviation, Chatelain was offered the job of designing and building the Apollo communications and data-processing systems.


    Chatelain claims that "all Apollo and Gemini flights were followed, both at a distance and sometimes also quite closely, by space vehicles of extraterrestrial origin - flying saucers, or UFOs, if you want to call them by that name. Every time it occurred, the astronauts informed Mission Control, who then ordered absolute silence." He goes on to say:


    “I think that Walter Schirra aboard Mercury 8 was the first of the astronauts to use the code name 'Santa Claus' to indicate the presence of flying saucers next to space capsules. However, his announcements were barely noticed by the general public. It was a little different when James Lovell on board the Apollo 8 command module came out from behind the moon and said for everybody to hear: 'PLEASE BE INFORMED THAT THERE IS A SANTA CLAUS.' Even though this happened on Christmas Day 1968, many people sensed a hidden meaning in those words.”


    Rumors persist. NASA may well be a civilian agency, but many of its programs are funded by the defense budget and most of the astronauts are subject to military security regulations. Apart from the fact that the National Security Agency screens all films and probably radio communications as well. We have the statements by Otto Binder, Dr. Garry Henderson and Maurice Chatelain that the astronauts were under strict orders not to discuss their sightings. And Gordon Cooper has testified to a United Nations committee that one of the astronauts actually witnessed a UFO on the ground. If there is no secrecy, why has this sighting not been made public?

    A certain professor, who wished to remain anonymous, was engaged in a discussion with Neil Armstrong during a NASA symposium.

    Professor: What REALLY happened out there with Apollo 11?

    Armstrong: It was incredible, of course we had always known there was a possibility, the fact is, we were warned off!(by the Aliens). There was never any question then of a space station or a moon city.

    Professor: How do you mean "warned off"?

    Armstrong: I can't go into details, except to say that their ships were far superior to ours both in size and technology - Boy, were they big!...and menacing! No, there is no question of a space station.

    Professor: But NASA had other missions after Apollo 11?

    Armstrong: Naturally - NASA was committed at that time, and couldn't risk panic on Earth. But it really was a quick scoop and back again.

    Armstrong confirmed that the story was true but refused to go into further detail, beyond admitting that the CIA was behind the cover-up.

    (thanks to BBS)

    More information: Sensation: Cities Found on the Moon!

    Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. We were not ready for it psychologically

    We still can come across publications trying to find an answer to the question: Are we alone in the universe? At the same time, presence of reasonable creatures has been detected just close to our home, in the Moon. However, the discovery was immediately classified as secret, as it was so much incredible that even could shake the already existing social principles, reports Russia's newspaper Vecherny Volgograd.

    Here is an extract from the official press-release:

    “NASA scientists and engineers participating in exploration of Mars and Moon reported results of their discoveries at a briefing at the
    Washington national press club on
    March 21, 1996. It was announced for the first time that man-caused structures and objects had been discovered on the Moon.” The scientists spoke rather cautiously and evasively about the functioning objects, with the exception of UFO. They always mentioned the man-caused objects as possible, and pointed out the information was still under study, and official results would be published later.

    It was mentioned at the briefing as well that the Soviet Union used to own some photo materials proving presence of reasonable activity on the Moon. And although it wasn't identified what kind of reasonable activity it was, thousands of photo-and video materials photographed from the Apollos and the Clementine space station demonstrated many parts on the lunar surface where the activity and its traces were perfectly evident. The video films and photos made by US astronauts during the Apollo program were demonstrated at the briefing. And people were extremely surprised why the materials hadn't been presented to the public earlier. And NASA specialists answered: “It was difficult to forecast the reaction of people to the information that some creatures had been or still were on the Moon. Besides, there were some other reasons to it, which were beyond NASA.

    Specialist for lunar artifacts Richard Hoagland says that NASA is still trying to veil photo materials before they are published in public catalogues and files, they do retouching or partially refocus them while copying. Some investigators, Hoagland is among them, suppose that an extraterrestrial race had used the Moon as a terminal station during their activity on the Earth. The suggestions are confirmed by the legends and myths invented by different nations of our planet.

    Ruins of lunar cities stretched along many kilometers, huge transparent domes on massive basements, numerous tunnels and other constructions make scientists reconsider their opinions concerning the lunar problems. How the Moon appeared and principles of its revolving around the Earth still pose a great problem for scientists.

    Some partially destroyed objects on the lunar surface can’t be placed among natural geological formations, as they are of complex organization and geometrical structure. In the upper part of Rima Hadley, not far from the place where the Apollo-15 had landed, a construction surrounded with a tall D-shaped wall was discovered. As of now, different artifacts have been discovered in 44 regions. The NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, the Houston Planetary Institute and specialists from the bank of space information are investigating the regions. Mysterious terrace-shaped excavations of the rock have been discovered near the Tiho crater. The concentric hexahedral excavations and the tunnel entry at the terrace side cant be results of natural geological processes; instead, they look very much like open cast mines. A transparent dome raised above the crater edge was discovered near the crater Copernicus. The dome is unusual as it is glowing white and blue from inside. A rather unusual object, which is unusual indeed even for the Moon, was discovered in the upper part of the Factory area. A disk of about 50 meters in diameter stands on a square basement surrounded with rhombi walls. In the picture, close to the rhombi, we can also see a dark round embrasure in the ground, which resembles an entry in an underground caponier. There is a regular rectangular area between Factory and the crater Copernicus which is 300 meters wide 400 meters long.

    Apollo-10 astronauts made a unique picture (AS10-32-4822) of a one-mile long object called Castle, which is hanging at the height of 14 kilometers and casts a distinct shadow on the lunar surface. The object seems to be consisting of several cylindrical units and a large conjunctive unit. Internal porous structure of the Castle is clearly seen in one of the pictures, which makes an impression that some parts of the object are transparent.

    As it turned out at the briefing where many NASA scientists were present, when Richard Hoagland had requested originals of the Castle pictures for the second time, no pictures were found there at all. They disappeared even from the list of pictures made by the Apollo-10 crew. Only intermediate pictures of the object were found in the archives, which unfortunately donut depict the internal structure of the object.

    When Apollo-12 crew landed on the lunar surface, they saw that the landing was observed by a half-transparent pyramidal object. It was hanging just several meters above the lunar surface and shimmered with all rainbow colors against the black sky.

    In 1969, when the film about astronauts traveling to the Sea of Storms was demonstrated (the astronauts saw the strange objects once again, which were later called “striped glasses”), NASA finally understood what consequences such kind of control could bring. Astronaut Mitchell answered the question about his feelings after a successful return the following:

    My neck still aches as I had to constantly turn my head around because we felt we were not alone there. We had no choice but pray.”

    Johnston, who worked at the Houston Space Center and studied photos and video materials done during the Apollo program, discussed the artifacts with Richard Hoagland and said, the NASA leadership was awfully annoyed with the great number of anomalous, to put it mildly, objects on the Moon. It was even said that piloted flights to the Moon could be banned in the programs network.


    Investigators are especially interested in ancient structures resembling partially destroyed cities. The orbital shooting reveals an astonishingly regular geometry of square and rectangular constructions. They resemble our terrestrial cities seen from the height of 5-8 kilometers. A mission control specialist commented on the pictures:

    Our guys observed ruins of the Lunar cities, transparent pyramids, domes and God knows what else, which are currently hidden deep inside the NASA safes, and felt like Robinson Crusoe when he suddenly came across prints of human bare feet on the sand of the desert island.”

    What do geologists and scientists say after studying the pictures of lunar cities and other anomalous objects? They say, such objects can’t be natural formations.

    We should admit they are artificial, especially the domes and pyramids. “


    Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. We were not ready for it psychologically, and some people hardly believe they are true even now.
     
  2. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    After reading all that... wow, that is some stuff I had not come across before. :tinfoilhat:

    My first response would be... ham radio operators heard the transmissions, pictures & videos have been taken, numerous US astronauts know about it along with various NASA & US government employees... heck, even the Russians know about it... but yet not a single recording/picture/video has been leaked to the public? Keeping an alien moon base secret would rank up with the greatest conspiracies of the 20th century, alongside "Who killed Kennedy?" or "Is Elvis Alive?" or even "Where is Hoffa?"
     
  3. painkiller64

    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    i agree. you know i remember watching capricorn 1 a many few years back and have to say that even though it was a movie it was, in my opinion, very far fetched for what it was saying and that even this article is even worse.

    this article that i found was by far the most intelligent one out there on the subject. usually subjects like this peak my interest and i have that inexorable need to find out more but not in this case.

    if our government or even the world governments are trying to hide this and then getting the conspiracy theorist leaked info to get us to believe that our neighbors to the west,east, whichever direction they are are living there and mining it, then i have to say hoorah to them for writing a very creative schitc.
     
  4. Birdman

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    Haha, very creative article! It was a fun read. I doubt it is anything more than that though.
    I certainly wouldn't rule out the possiblity of it being true though either. I heard one guy say that when he asked a close friend who is high up in the know what kind of blackbook projects they had going on the friend replied, "You've seen Star wars, Star Trek and such....ha, we've been there and done that already" thats all I can tell you.
    So I wouldn't doubt too much at this point. We may have ppl out there among the stars already. Carrying on a Stargate like existence, battling aliens, fighting alongside alien allies, procurring new technologies......who knows.
     
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    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    yes it is a fun article to read yet what do you believe? is there a stargate, a time gate as in the star trek episode "The City on the Edge of Forever" . i guess it is whatever we all want to believe.
     
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    audiothor Indie Audio producer

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    This isn't new.... I can remember reading a book called 'Someone else is on our Moon' back when I was at school.

    I was an avid amateur astronomer as a kid and saved up for a telescope. I used to freeze in the cold night air for hours 'til my Mum would order me inside to bed.

    I would read stuff about UFO's and feel bitterly disappointed that, in all the time I watched the sky, I didn't see anything like that. Nothing... Zilch.

    I must have just been looking the wrong way because, to read some reports, the sky must be full of UFO's.

    Maybe I needed a bigger telescope.
     
  7. Birdman

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    Actually I summed up the video clip I was referring to. The guy was actually trying to say that we have starships already out there exploring and engaging in wars and such. Just like star wars and the stargate series ship "Promethius".

    According to this guy, we (our governments) reverse engineered recovered UFO's and also gained tech assistance from UFO crash survivors.
    Appearently President Truman, negotiated an accord with the remaining Aliens from the Roswell crash and from that point through the present we have been exchanging technologies for resources here on Earth and abroad. That was the reason for the coverup concerning Roswell. They didn't want to leak intelligence to other countries as to the edge we had aquired in technology and alliances.
    I have also seen sattelite images showing crafts servicing some sort of antenna array near the sun which is supposedly one of the joint projects. A few have guessed that it's a huge solar power energy transferrance grid that will be capable of "Beaming" power from it to whatever the destination may be.
     
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    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    i apologize if i came across wrong. i forget others think these things. this is the only place where i can express my thoughts like this.
     
  9. Birdman

    Birdman Birdman

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    Haha, well thats what these places are for...no?

    I'm not a complete loon........................ some parts are missing, lol. Actually I keep an open mind but this is a sci-fi forum so why not entertain the super-fantastic possibilities.
     
  10. screenersam

    screenersam This is news, Vincenzo, NEWS!

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  11. Akhalor

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    I'm still dealing with the emotional fallout of learning that the moon isn't made of green cheese...

    :D
     
  12. Kevin

    Kevin Code Monkey Staff Abductee

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    PK64, sorry in advance for going so far off topic.... :o

    Are you a Wallace & Gromit fan by any chance? If you're not familiar with them, track down "A Grand Day Out" and you'll see you're not the only one obsesses with cheese on the moon. :D
     
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    painkiller64 Avoid A Void

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    :eek:WHAT!!!!!!! You mean the moon is NOT made of cheese??????:eek:
     
  14. Akhalor

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    Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin ate it all... :D

    I do like Wallace and Gromit. And wererabbits...
     
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