Season 4 Mole in APO?

Who, if anyone, is the mole in APO?

  • Director Chase

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  • Arvin Sloane

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  • Jack Bristow

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  • Marcus Dixon

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  • Marshall Flinkman

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  • Nadia Santos

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  • Eric Weiss

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  • Michael Vaughn

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  • Sydney Bristow

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  • No one

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freelancer7 said:
  Jack seems more concerned with the outcome, than the path he needs to get there
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How, true. That would be consistent with his character. I love it!! Nice theory.
 
i've thought there was a mole for awhile now. i'm not sure who, but there has to be a mole. maybe the semi-cute doctor :Ph34r:
 
If Marshall is the mole (involving Rambadi stuff), whom someone suggested earlier, I can see him doing it so that he can protect Sydney. I can see Marshall being someone who would go out of his way to protect Syd. I just can't see Marshall as being evil - he doesn't have it in him.
 
DSR<O> said:
APO Mole Theory

So who do I think could be the mole in APO?  There are three possibilities that occur to me.  First, Sloane, because he will forever be under a cloud of suspicion due to his Alliance past.  Second, Jack, because one is never quite sure where he stands.  He's got that perfect ambiguity of character and motives that just invites speculation, notwithstanding his apparent protectiveness of Sydney.  Third, Marshall.  Whoa...<rewind> zzzzzzzpp....Marshall??  :eek:  Now before you commit me to the asylum, hear me out.

There are a few reasons I think Marshall could be the mole.  Most of them are circumstantial, but when considered together, makes for a plausible case.

1. Marshall was the one who first clued APO to the fact that the CRF was looking for Dante's Compound to build a bomb, and that they were Anna's likely employer.  Not the kind of info you expect Marshall to be on top of.  He's just supposed to be the tech hermit, after all.

2. When Jack asked Marshall if he could construct a fake Dante's Compound, Marshall first said "not a chance", then relented after being pressed.  Could it be that he wanted the real compound to make it into CRF's hands?

3. Why did Sark's tracker become active, according to Marshall, just when he gets to Johannesburg?  If you recall, Jack and Vaughn were pestering Marshall about why the tracker was taking so long to come online, and Marshall hits a few keystrokes...lo and behold, it's live...just in time to reveal Sark at the fake CRF headquarters.  This could be nothing more than coincidence, but isn't the timing somewhat convenient?  Was Marshall stalling, buying time for Sark to do his business?

4. As mentioned, how did Anna know all about Sark's explosive tracker and the exact spot in his neck, too?  Wasn't Marshall part of the team that went in to Sark's cell to inject the device?  He would know the exact location of the injection to pass on to Anna.

5. Why did Marshall visit Sark in prison, more than once, by his own admission?  Breakfast?  Right.  Vaughn said that the CRF had tried repeatedly to contact Sark while he was in prison.  Later, it was revealed that Sark had communicated with CRF via a series of classified ads.  But you would think that any message Sark tried to put in the newspaper would be closely scrutinized by the CIA before it ever made print, right?  Enter Marshall.  Sark could have passed the messages to Marshall as a middleman during those visits.

6. Ok, this is merely something from the Alias videogame on PS2, which I've played.  In this game that was chronologically set between the end of Season 2 and the beginning of Season 3, Marshall was actually evil for one scene, due to being brainwashed by none other than Anna Espinosa!  (It was Vaughn who literally beat some sense back into him.  :lol: )  I know that the videogame and anything not actually aired on TV is not considered Alias "canon", but it could reveal some of JJ Abrams' thinking for future plotlines.  After all, Abrams did collaborate closely on the story for the videogame.

7. Nearly every Rambaldi device the CIA gets their hands on, also gets examined by Marshall.  He is in a prime position to get a look at the goods and gather intel about them.  Marshall had always been impressed with the genius of Rambaldi's various devices.  Perhaps he's seen the light of Rambaldi's work and become a convert.  He is also the one most likely to be able to figure out how the various pieces fit into the big puzzle.  His technical expertise and access makes him the best asset inside the government for a partnership with Sark, or other Rambaldi followers.  He could easily sabotage tech/data/evidence and cover his tracks because, after all, who is going to double-check Marshall's work, if he's the resident expert?  Sark/Anna, naturally, would provide the operational skills, the funding (Sark's millions), and the cover as "bad guys" to keep the CIA from suspecting the innocuous geek, Marshall.

Objections:  Why would Sark need to pass classified ads to Marshall instead of having Marshall contact CRF himself?  Why would Marshall put APO on the trail of CRF, and risk setting himself back?  First, the classified ads may have been CRF's standard protocol for covert messaging, which Sark/Marshall had to oblige in order to do business.  Second, it's quite possible that the CRF was just a third party that Sark/Marshall had to deal with  on the way to bigger objectives.  Once the CRF had outlived its usefulness, they became expendable.  And it appears they were a small time operation that has already fizzled with the assasination of Ushek Sanko.  The fact that Sark betrayed Anna may be a result of his own shifting loyalties, and may have nothing to do with Marshall.

Granted, it doesn't seem consistent with Marshall's character to betray the CIA, but then Marshall has shown that he can put on an act when required.  Remember that field mission in the casino with the cowboy hat?  I admit this theory seems far fetched, and I hope I'm wrong because the good guys need someone like Marshall on their side.  This theory also doesn't address the issue of when Marshall might have switched sides.  It's not that I've got something against Marshall, it's just that these points I've mentioned seem to flash warning signals, especially in light of the probability that a mole exists in APO.  :Ph34r:

Apologies for the long post and thank you for staying with it.
DSR<O>
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Do you remember in Season3 when that security system coordinator (the fancy woman with all the celebrity clients in Europe) offered Marshall a job on her team? Marshall sheepishly admitted that the CIA does not pay him as well as she was offering to pay him, and he was tempted, but he refused because he likes working for the good guys. Well.... what if he never forgot that encounter? What if he reconsidered? Now that he is married and has a baby to take care of, what if he thought, maybe this Rambaldi stuff is worth looking at? Maybe he should look at what Anna and/or Sark have to say, consider that Rambaldi might be right about his prophecies, and bonus, a bigger/extra paycheck on the side!

It is far fetched, like you say, but not completely unworthy of consideration. I do think a lot of your points are interesting, especially Marshall's admission of visiting Sark, and the tracking device Anna removed from Sark's neck.

As much as I don't want Marshall to be a mole, I would rather it be him than Jack or Sloane. But I have to admit, I also suspect Nadia.
I cannot define my reasons for suspecting Nadia because it is mostly just a feeling.
I just really hope it's not Jack or Sloane because they are my favorite characters, apart from Sydney. But I don't agree with you that Jack leaves himself open to suspicion. Yes, he has done unpredictable things, but he has never allied himself with the bad guys. He was a double agent from Day One of his association with The Alliance. The only reason he allied himself with Irina in Season 3 was to gain her help in finding Sydney or solving the mystery of who killed her.
As for Sloane, I know it's possible he's working with Sark again, but I have not seen any evidence of this. Sark seemed genuinely astonished/amused to learn that Sloane was with the CIA.
 
There's no way that Marshall's the mole - unless he's been brainwashed. However, if he was, that would be the biggest twist of them all! After watching Tuesday, it's possible that Marshall's playing them! He's a Super Spy after all!!

I don't trust Nadia either. There's just something about her. At first, I did but when she was talking about her relationship with Weiss with Syd and Syd told her not to break his heart or something like that, she hesitated and all these red flags went up in my head. (I think that was in Echoes.) I'm not sure about that girl!

If Jack's a mole, his underlying motivation for being one is to protect Syd. Though I'm not sure how getting Sark released and free to move about would play into that. Maybe he's made a deal with Sark?

Sark and Sloane could definitely be working together. As I've said before, we could still be in Phase Two of Sloane's Master Plan.
 
I think we'll learn more about the pact between Sloane and Jack tonight in Nightengale. I hope so anyway. Do you really think Sark and Sloane would trust each other enough to work together again?
i think Sloane would use Sark in a heartbeat, but Sark knows that and Sark doesn't seem the type to work with someone he suspects of using him, unless there's something really big in it for him. That said, though, the endgame might be big enough for Sark to sacrifice a little dignity. :P
If sloane is working with anyone on the outside, though, I suspect it'd be Anna before Sark, because of Anna knowing about the tracking device.
But I still hope the mole isn't Sloane!
 
I see there's a couple of votes for Director Chase being the mole. Actually, I think that is entirely possible too. Here we go again... :lol:

Alternative APO Mole Theory

APO was conceived as a 'black-ops' division of the CIA, accountable to no one but the Director and themselves. Sloane himself said it was to be the CIA version of SD-6. What if Chase has truly created another SD-6, misleading all the lower level agents into believing they work for the government, when in fact they are inadvertently laying the foundation for a new Alliance by collecting an arsenal of hi-tech weapons and intel? The arsenal amassed so far: unspecified isotope, Ice-5, Nocturne virus, Black Thorine, EMF, Dante's Compound bomb, Blackwell Index, Biometric Targeting Device, Amplifying Glass. All are highly dangerous, extremely valuable assets and all have conveniently made their way into APO hands. Can history repeat itself? Some points to consider:

1. Other than Chase, does anyone else at CIA/US government even know APO exists? Due to 'Black-Ops' status, no one is even allowed to contact the CIA directly, except through the Director's office, should they want to verify the legitimacy of APO. A convenient way to ensure containment.

2. Chase seemed very stubborn when confronted with Dixon's evidence, almost to the point of defending Sloane. With Sloane's past history, any hint of wrongdoing should have been enough to at least merit further investigation. Instead, Chase encourages Dixon to remove the phone tap. Was she willfully turning a blind eye?

3. I found somewhat suspicious her first question to Dixon after acknowledging his undeniable proof: "Who else knows about this?" It sounded as if she was plotting steps to contain the leak, i.e. Who would she have to eliminate to maintain the deception?

4. When Jack and Sloane were handing over the decoder for the Blackwell Index to Devereaux, they obviously had no extraction team in place to rescue Jack in case things turned sour. Surely they anticipated that Devereaux would test the decoder on the spot to verify its authenticity. Yet when things go south, Jack was caught flat-footed at the mercy of Devereaux. He was left without help for a long enough time that things could have gone terribly wrong. Not very good planning if it was intentional. It was only pure luck that Nadia and gang got to Jack in the nick of time. Jack is supposedly a master at 'game theory', and I find it exceedingly uncharacteristic that he would put himself in such a precarious situation without a contingency plan. Thus, from his and Sloane's reaction, it appears that they believed they were handing over the genuine decoder. To former Alliance operatives, no less. Why would they do that? If they only wanted to ID the players as Sloane said, then why bother to give them the real thing? Why not just walk in, scan each of their faces, then call in the cavalry to round them up?

But how are they funded, if not by the government? Well, Sark's got a few hundred million and now he's conveniently on the loose. What would Sloane and Jack have to gain from such a duplicitous venture? It could very well have to do with the pact between them, of which we have few details.

Sounds very been there, done that, doesn't it? I'm sure you've noticed during this season the many recalls of elements from Season 1: Sydney's cover job at an investment bank, Sark escaping from being handcuffed to a rail, Anna Espinosa's return, psych tests, Irina's first edition volumes, dysfuntional family dinner, etc. Seems like the writers are trying to bring back the show's roots. It's not inconceivable that they make APO the new Alliance. Another far-fetched theory? Probably. The problem with discerning a mole in a spy series is that the conspiracy theories tend to multiply until everyone and everything is implicated. But then that's also part of the fun. ^_^

DSR<O>

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it could be D Chase, but i'm going with Dixon. I think that he's so blinded by his hatred for Sloane, that he'd ally himself with the badguys just to bring Sloane down
 
I think it's Jack Bristow and Sloane, but it probably isn't, because that's kinda what the showed in the previews and it always is a surprise.
 
I don't think there's a mole. Maybe Anna just has technology that could detect the explosive device that Marshall didn't know about.

Or the writers just created a GAPING plot-hole. :D
 
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