Object at Rest Never Actually at Rest

Tom

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#1
Newton's First Law states that an object will remain at rest or in uniform motion in a straight line unless acted upon by an external force.

There is a fundamental flaw in this...Relativity
The flaw is that nothing is actually ever at rest relative to everything.

Lemme splain;

Consider your chair, the floor or the ground where you are standing.
Its all moving in many ways but relative to your own perception it might 'seem' at rest (a delusion).

As the relative observation of any given object moves into the sub-atomic or quantum realm, you will find that everything is in constant motion relative to its heat (energy).
But, moving outward at more macro relativity the motion is more understandable.

Lets say you are considering a rock at your feet as the object at rest (or pick any object).
Relative to you, it is not moving. Thus, it is at rest.
Relative to the Earth, it is moving around 500 mph.
If you stopped that rock relative to the rotation of the Earth it would fly off around 500 miles per hour.
Now, consider that the Earth is wobbling on its axis. That rock is now moving around 500 mph and back and forth.
Now consider it relative to the Sun.
Its moving around 500 mph and back and forth plus its moving thru space around the Sun.

But wait, it gets even more motion as you expand your relativity reference.
Being locked to the motion of the Earth around the Sun it is also moving in relation to the Sun moving thru the galaxy.
So now it is moving in its Earthly movement but around the galaxy and up and down as the Sun moves up and down in relation to the plane of its orbit in the galactic plane.

We're not done yet...
The galaxy is also moving as it orbits the galactic cluster and travels thru intergalactic space.
It is also moving in relation to the Virgo Super-cluster of galaxies and that is even moving in relation to the Universe as a whole.
The Universe, expanding as it does, is also moving as a whole in the super-universal medium in which it exists.

So, any object within the Universe is always in motion, never actually at rest.
As a matter of fact, that rock is actually booking really fast.
Relative to you, it is stationary but in reality, its not.

The space we occupy now will be gone in one second from now. Its already "Waaay" back there and we will NEVER be in that spot ever again.

That object you are holding in your hand is also moving at great speeds relative to your perceptions, its breath-takingly fast.
How fast exactly is anyone's guess? You would have to know all the vectors for its position and the all the movement velocities.

Some of you might or might not be aware of this.
Relativity is a deception.
Relativity applies across multiple domains.
We often accept the delusion reinforced by relativity perception.

Relativity is complex and many times we can't tell the myth of relativity from reality.

Newton's Law is accepted because in our relativity it applies.
The flaw of presuming anything can ever be at rest limits this law as a perception regulated law
and not a fundamental law of reality.
If it is flawed in one way, it is flawed.
 

AlienView

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#2
Correct!

How about time? - Now?

I say now never exists - you would have to freeze all motion, freeze the universe for now to exist.

I know there are those who will say we exist in a perpetual now - A fantasy.

Again I say - Only the future exists - We live in a perpetually hypothetical state of reality
- which in final analysis is itself only hypothetical.



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“We have no right to assume that any physical laws exist, or if they have existed up to now, that they will continue to exist in a similar manner in the future.”
― Max Planck, The Universe in the Light of Modern Physics
 

Tom

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#3
The way I think about time is that every moment we are aware of is the past.
If you think about the speed of light and the speed of senses to brain/brain processing everything that we can sense is happening in the past. There is no 'now'. At least not that we can actually sense.
Its like sound at a distance. At a distance, a man strikes a metal plate. We see the man strike the plate but it takes a bit of time for the sound to reach our ears.
Likewise, the sunshine that reaches Earth is about 7 miniutes old.
Everything you see, unless it is a direct source of light immediately at your eye takes time for the photons to strike an object and be reflected to our eyes. We see colors and hues because light strikes an object and refracts to absorb or reflect different parts of the spectrum. Those different colors move at different speeds, slower or faster from infrared to ultraviolet. If it didn't, everything would be pitch black (absense of light) or brilliant radiance (presense of all spectrums of light at the same time). Black is not a color, its the absense of reflected light. White is not a color it is the presense of all light being reflected.
Then it takes time for that photosensor to register the light and more time for that sense to travel to the brain. Then the brain has to decipher that input signal to register it as light and tell the rest of the brain it is light.
We only sense the past.
Likewise, an artificial detector that registers light also detects the past in much the same way.

As for the future, we use our experience of the past in the present to effect the future. The future can be over-ridden by many things so it can never be a sure thing. The only thing that is an absolute is the past.
 
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Tom

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I also think what we call the present (not the 'now') is a series of 'static states' that have an extremely short duration. Our brains put those static states together as a "Flow of Time" we call the present. At any given change there is potential for tangents but since we anticipate the next state change, it requires a tangent change that prevails before we realize a change has happened. Our brains are so 'tuned' that those changes in states appear to us as an ever-changing present.

Its more than a lifetime series of photos because it encompasses all our senses, not just sight.
Think a sensory display playing at a few quadrillion frames per second.

At carnivals, they used to have a machine that used static images to produce movement. The movement we detect when we turn the drum is an illusion our eye creates from those individual images. Now, think if you could do the same with all senses. That's what our brains do. That's what we detect as time passage.
 

AlienView

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#5
I agree with most of what you say but.......

The only thing that is an absolute is the past.
Yes and No - The thing is in viewing the past 'now' {however you see it}, perspectives change with
the point and time of observation - So exactly what happened in the past may not be {or appear}
the same seen from different points in time and space. - Maybe there is nothing in this world that
is really 'absolute' ?



“When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.”
― Max Planck
 
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