Politics Social Democratism

agnes bean said:
It's weird. I was raised democratic, but a few years ago I realized I really wasn't. I was, in many ways, socialst. Now, I'm still too young to vote, but when I'm old enough I'll most likley vote deomocratic most of the time because I agree with many of thier veiws (especially on issues like stem cell reaserch and abortion--though I do wish the party would take a stronger pro-gay marrige stance). Plus, I hate most republican standpoints. But I do sometimes wish there were more options.
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My parents are both non-partisan. My dad is moderately liberal, and my mom grew up in Japan, so she has the Japanese mindset, which is generally more conservative.

In middle school and part of high school, I was on the line, neither really conservative nor liberal. Mostly because I didn't know about a lot of issues. Then I began forming opinions, and they tended to the liberal side. I've become more and more liberal over the past few years. I've been influenced a lot by Simone de Beauvoir, who had many socialist beliefs.

I'm also very passionate about the environment (almost took the path to becoming an environmental lawyer), so the Green Party really appeals to me. I agree with a lot of what the Democratic Party believes, but they are almost too conservative to me... they're too "undecided" on some issues. I oppose pretty much everything said by the Republican Party.

This past election was the first in which I could vote, and I voted for Kerry, instead of the Green Party candidate, partly because I was so desperate to not have Bush be re-elected... I'm kind of ashamed to admit that. Kerry was made more attractive to me when he chose his vice-pres candidate to be Edwards, though. Hopefully, we'll see Edwards running in 4 years... then maybe I'll be persuaded to vote Democrat again.
 
our Score

Your scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and 0.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (95.06%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (88.95%), Ralph Nader (86.56%), George W. Bush (57.10%)

Statistics

Of the 67276 people who took the test:

1. 1.8% had the same score as you.
2. 31.6% were above you on the chart.
3. 56.6% were below you on the chart.
4. 70.5% were to your right on the chart.
5. 21.4% were to your left on the chart.
 
Results:

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Socialism
2. Variation: Moderate Socialism, Moral Socialism
3. Ideologies: Social Democratism
4. US Parties: Democratic Party
5. Presidents: Jimmy Carter (95.58%)
6. 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (91.16%), John Kerry (86.02%), George W. Bush (52.20%)

Statistics

Of the 67429 people who took the test:

1. 1.1% had the same score as you.
2. 24.3% were above you on the chart.
3. 68.4% were below you on the chart.
4. 78.6% were to your right on the chart.
5. 14.9% were to your left on the chart.

Yeah... Well this test is very american :rolleyes: :lol:
 
Your Score

Your scored -2.5 on the Moral Order axis and -3 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Liberalism
Ideologies: Capital Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Bill Clinton (96.88%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (95.06%), Ralph Nader (76.51%), George W. Bush (65.70%)
Statistics

Of the 68540 people who took the test:

0.7% had the same score as you.
67.5% were above you on the chart.
27% were below you on the chart.
47% were to your right on the chart.
29.5% were to your left on the chart.
 
xdancer said:
Your Score

Your scored -4.5 on the Moral Order axis and 2 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Socialism
Variation: Moral Socialism
Ideologies: Social Democratism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (90.89%)
2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (92.03%), John Kerry (81.12%), George W. Bush (47.85%)

i love Jimmy Carter - i'm not too sure about his effectiveness as President, but he seems like a very good and generous person.  wierd that i didn't match a party though...
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I didn't get one either...*shrugs*

Your Score
Your scored -3.5 on the Moral Order axis and 1.5 on the Moral Rules axis.
Matches
The following items best match your score:
* System: Socialism
* Variation: Moderate Socialism
* Ideologies: Social Democratism
* US Parties: No match.
* Presidents: Jimmy Carter (93.01%)
* 2004 Election Candidates: Ralph Nader (88.73%), John Kerry (84.38%), George W. Bush (52.71%)
Statistics
Of the 69012 people who took the test:
* 1.3% had the same score as you.
* 24.6% were above you on the chart.
* 68.2% were below you on the chart.
* 70.5% were to your right on the chart.
* 21.5% were to your left on the chart.

Jai :rain:
 
Existentialist said:
Hopefully, we'll see Edwards running in 4 years... then maybe I'll be persuaded to vote Democrat again.
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I hope to see Edwards running in 4 years, and I hope he actually gets the nod this time. My dad even likes him, and he's pretty conservative. And I'd probably vote for Edwards (you know, depending what happens in the next 3 years), especially since it will be the first presidential election I'll be able to vote in.
 
My results:

Your Score

Your scored -3 on the Moral Order axis and 0 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Socialism, Liberalism
Variation: Moderate Socialism, Moderate Liberalism
Ideologies: Social Democratism, Capital Democratism
US Parties: Democratic Party
Presidents: Jimmy Carter (95.58%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (91.16%), Ralph Nader (86.02%), George W. Bush (58.31%)
Statistics

Of the 71075 people who took the test:

1.8% had the same score as you.
32.1% were above you on the chart.
56.1% were below you on the chart.
70.3% were to your right on the chart.
21.7% were to your left on the chart.
 
Your Score

Your scored -2.5 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Liberalism
Variation: Economic Liberalism
Ideologies: Progressive NeoLiberalism
US Parties: No match.
Presidents: Bill Clinton (86.56%)
2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (79.99%), George W. Bush (66.20%), Ralph Nader (63.42%)
Statistics

Of the 71081 people who took the test:

4% had the same score as you.
83.3% were above you on the chart.
4.1% were below you on the chart.
46.9% were to your right on the chart.
29.7% were to your left on the chart.
 
what do you think about the following?

Bill McKibben said:
<span style='font-size:13pt;line-height:100%'>Climate of Denial</span>

It was around eight in the morning in the vast convention hall in Kyoto. The negotiations over a worldwide treaty to limit global warming gases, which were supposed to have ended the evening before, had gone on through the night. Drifts of paper—treaty drafts, industry talking points, environmentalist press releases—overflowed every wastebasket. Delegates in suits and ties were passed out on couches, noisily mouth breathing. And polite squadrons of workers were shooing people out of the hall so that some trade show—tool and die makers, I think—could set up its displays.

Finally, from behind the closed doors, word emerged that we had a treaty. The greens all cheered, halfheartedly—since it wasn't as though the agreement would go anywhere near far enough to arrest global warming—but firm in their conviction that the tide on the issue had finally turned. After a decade of resistance, the oil companies and the car companies and all the other deniers of global warming had seen their power matched.

Or so it seemed. I was standing next to a top industry lobbyist, a man who had spent the last week engineering opposition to the treaty, huddling with Exxon lawyers and Saudi delegates, detailing the Venezuelans to change this word, the Kuwaitis to soften that number. Right now he looked just plain tired. "I can't wait to get back to Washington," he said. "In Washington we'll get this under control again."

At the time I thought he was blowing smoke, putting on a game face, whistling past the graveyard of corporate control. I almost felt sorry for him; it seemed to me (as sleep-deprived as everyone else) that we were on the brink of a new world.

As it turned out, we both were right. The rest of the developed world took Kyoto seriously; in the eight years since then, the Europeans and the Japanese have begun to lay the foundation for rapid and genuine progress toward the initial treaty goal of cutting carbon emissions to a level 5 to 10 percent below what it was in 1990. You can see the results of that long Kyoto night in the ranks of windmills rising along the coast of the North Sea, in the solar panels sprouting on German rooftops, and in the remarkable political unanimity in most of the world on the need for rapid change. Tony Blair's science adviser has repeatedly called global warming a greater threat than terrorism, but that hasn't been enough for Britain's Conservatives; the Tory leader (the equivalent of, say, Tom DeLay) rose last summer to excoriate Blair for moving too slowly on carbon reductions.

In Washington, however, the lobbyists did get things "under control." Eight years after Kyoto, Big Oil and Big Coal remain in complete and unchallenged power. Around the country, according to industry analysts, 68 new coal-fired power plants are in various stages of planning. Detroit makes cars that burn more fuel, on average, than at any time in the last two decades. The president doesn't mention the global warming issue, and the leaders of the opposition don't, either: John Kerry didn't exactly run on solving the climate crisis. The high-water mark for legislative action came in 2003, when John McCain actually managed to persuade 43 senators to support a bill calling for at least some carbon reductions, albeit much lower than even the modest Kyoto levels. But given that it takes 60 votes to beat a filibuster and 66 to override a veto, and given that the GOP has since added four hard-right senators to its total, it's safe to say that nothing will be happening inside the Beltway anytime soon.

IT WAS NEVER going to be easy. Controlling global warming is not like the other battles (dirty water, smog) that environmentalists have taken on, and mostly won, over the years. Carbon dioxide, a.k.a. CO2, or just "carbon" for short, is not a conventional pollutant. It's tasteless, colorless, odorless. Unlike carbon monoxide, which is what kills you if you leave your car running in the garage, CO2 doesn't do anything to the human body directly. It does its damage in the lower atmosphere by holding in heat that would otherwise escape out to space. And even more unfortunate, there's no easy way to get rid of it, no catalytic converter you can stick on your tailpipe, no scrubber you can fit to your smokestack. To reduce the amount of CO2 pouring into the atmosphere means dramatically reducing the amount of fossil fuel being consumed. Which means changing the underpinning of the planet's entire economy and altering our most ingrained personal habits. Even under the best scenarios, this will involve something more like a revolution than a technical fix.

You would think the Europeans would have had a harder time making reductions; after all, they were already fairly energy-efficient, thanks to decades of high taxes on coal and oil. Their low-hanging fruit had long since been plucked. For the United States, there were loads of relatively easy fixes. We could have quickly reduced our emissions by trimming the number of SUVs on the road, for instance, while the French were already in Peugeots. However, in certain ways, America was more firmly locked into coal and oil than our European peers: sprawling suburbs, oversized houses, abandoned rail lines. We had the single hardest habit to break, which was thinking of energy as something cheap. This staggering inertia meant that even when our leaders had some interest in controlling energy use, they faced a real challenge. Al Gore wrote a book insisting that the future of civilization itself depended on battling global warming; during his eight years as vice president, Americans increased their carbon emissions by 15 percent.

What makes the battle harder still is the tangibility gap between benefits and costs. Everyone is, in the long run, better off if the planet doesn't burn to a crisp. But in any given year the payoff for shifting away from fossil fuel is incremental and essentially invisible. The costs, however, are concentrated: If you own a coal mine, an oil well, or an assembly line churning out gas-guzzlers, you have a very strong incentive for making sure no one starts charging you for emitting carbon.

At the very least, the "energy sector" needed to stall for time, so that its investments in oil fields and the like could keep on earning for their theoretical lifetimes. The strategy turned out to be simple: Cloud the issue as much as possible so that voters, already none too eager to embrace higher gas prices, would have no real reason to move climate change to the top of their agendas. I mean, if the scientists aren't absolutely certain, well, why not just wait until they get it sorted out?

The tactic worked brilliantly; throughout the 1990s, even as other nations took action, the fossil fuel industry's Global Climate Coalition managed to make American journalists treat the accelerating warming as a he-said-she-said story. True, a vast scientific consensus was forming that climate change threatens the earth more profoundly than anything since the dawn of civilization, but in an Associated Press dispatch the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change didn't look all that much more impressive than, say, Patrick Michaels of the Cato Institute or S. Fred Singer, former chief scientist at the U.S. Department of Transportation. Michaels and Singer weren't really doing new research, just tossing jabs at those who were, but that didn't matter. Their task was not to build a new climate model; it was to provide cover for politicians who were only too happy to duck the issue. Their task was to keep things under control.

It was all incredibly crude. But it was also incredibly effective. For now and for the foreseeable future, the climate skeptics have carried the day. They've understood the shape of American politics far better than environmentalists. They know that it doesn't matter how many scientists are arrayed against you as long as you can intimidate newspapers into giving you equal time. They understand, too, that playing defense is all they need to do: Given the inertia inherent in the economy, it's more than sufficient to simply instill doubt.

IN SHORT, the deniers have done their job, and done it better than the environmen- talists have done theirs. They've delayed action for 15 years now, and their power seems to grow with each year. How, even as the science grew ever firmer and the evidence mounted ever higher, did the climate deniers manage to muddy the issue? It's one of the mightiest political feats of our time, accomplished by a small group of clever and committed people. It's worthwhile trying to understand how they work, not least because some of the same tactics are now being used in debates over other issues, like Social Security. And because the fight over global warming won't end here. Try as they might, even with all three branches of government under their control, conservative Republicans can't repeal the laws of chemistry and physics.
 
Bill McKibben said:
<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Stranger Than Fiction</span>

MICHAEL CRICHTON’S NOVEL State of Fear, published last December, is a curious volume, combining all the clichés of pulp fiction (heaving breasts, cannibals, poisoning by octopi) with graphs and comment and lengthy footnotes directing readers to journals like Nature and The Lancet, along with the same small set of studies the climate skeptics have been promoting for years. Its premise is that environmentalists have made up a lie about the dangers of climate change in order to raise funds, and that to keep the lie alive they will do almost anything—notably, try to trigger a tsunami that will make people worry about rising sea levels. The latter is a laughable proposition—tsunamis, caused by volcanic explosions or tectonic shifts, are one of the few natural phenomena still unaffected by man, and no one has ever claimed otherwise.

Within a few weeks of the novel’s publication, of course, a real tsunami swept across South Asia. While everyone else was organizing to help the survivors, some climate contrarians organized to use the event to cement the claim from Crichton’s book that environmentalists were evil opportunists. Thirty-six hours after the wave struck, the lead editorial in the Wall Street Journal (command central for the “What, me worry?” forces) insisted that “in the world of environmental zealotry, even an event such as this is seen as an opportunity to press the agenda. Thus the source of the South Asian tsunami is being located in global warming.” The editorial quoted two activists—Stephen Tindale, executive director of Greenpeace UK, and Tony Juniper, executive director of Friends of the Earth—and noted that “people prone to hysteria often become further unhinged in the face of a great disaster,” adding that “it is perhaps appropriate that the strongest, recent refutation to such feverish assertions may be found in Michael Crichton’s new thriller.”

The only problem was that Juniper and Tindale had never said a word about the tsunami. The Journal editorial cited an article in Britain’s Independent about record property damage from natural disasters in the year 2004. The two men—interviewed, as it turned out, before the tsunami had even struck—were talking about floods and hurricanes and the $100 billion price tag they’d exacted, totals high enough that those radicals in the European insurance industry had become outspoken proponents of curbing carbon emissions. But as usual in these discussions, the actual facts made no difference—within hours the story that environmentalists were “using” the tsunami had been pumped into the media bloodstream by all the usual suspects. Patrick Michaels of the Cato Institute issued a press release attacking “anyone who has the moral audacity” to blame deaths from the tsunami on global warming, and added that “Michael Crichton should sue environmentalists who blame the massive death toll” on global warming for plagiarism. Citing the same sources as the Journal, Dennis Avery, a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute perhaps best known for his claims that organic food is dangerous to eat, wrote in a newspaper column that “a colleague warned me that environmental activists would move quickly to blame the Asian tsunami on global warming. I didn’t have long to wait.” Steven Milloy, who’s thepublisher of JunkScience.com as well as a FoxNews.com columnist, used the same Tindale and Juniper quotes to back his insistence that “environmental activists are shamelessly trying to exploit” the tsunami “in hopes of advancing their global warming and anti-development agendas.” He added that catastrophes like the tidal wave “pale in comparison to the not-so-natural disaster known as modern environmentalism.”

Think it doesn’t matter? That it’s just some columnists and web jockeys who can’t really do much damage in the face of firmly established scientific consensus? A few days later, Senator James Inhofe of Oklahoma, chair of the Committee on Environment and Public Works, and hence the man past whom any climate legislation will have to pass, took to the floor on the opening day of Congress’ new session to give a lengthy speech in which he accused the greens of linking the tsunami to climate change, adding, “There is something inhumane about that, that they would capitalize on the tragedy of a hundred thousand people to push a hoax like global warming.”

Inhofe, too, recommended Michael Crichton’s book.
what do y'all think about this article?
 
Please urge Congress to pass the “Security and Freedom Enhancement Act” (SAFE Act) with strong bipartisan support. The SAFE Act would repeal some of the more problematic aspects of the USA PATRIOT Act that weaken constitutional and international legal protections, while still ensuring that law enforcement officers are able to investigate charges of terrorism.

Please continue those who have supported efforts to mitigate the problematic provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act, which was passed by the US Congress and signed into law by the President soon after September 11, 2001. The most troubling aspects of the USA PATRIOT Act infringe on the human rights and constitutional protections of US citizens and non-citizens and contravene basic protections provided in the U.S. Constitution and various international treaties. The USA PATRIOT Act weakened the system of checks and balances on the law enforcement authority and due process safeguards under the law. The USA PATRIOT Act also created an ambiguous and broad definition for “domestic terrorism” crimes, instituted a lenient roving wire tap law that does not require affirmation of a person’s identity before conversations are monitored, allowed for widespread use of sneak and peek searches, and relaxed the standards that law enforcement must meet in order to obtain business and personal records. The USA PATRIOT Act has inspired a proliferation of similar laws throughout the world.

Senators and Members of Congress should pass the SAFE Act, which would begin to restore basic constitutional and international human rights weakened by the USA PATRIOT Act. Specifically, the SAFE Act would:

- Restore the protections afforded to civilians who are not the stated targeted for the roving wiretaps and ensure that the person being monitored is indeed the person under investigation;

- Limit the so called sneak and peek searches – which gave law enforcement the ability to implement search warrants without notifying the target of the search – to specific cases where a loss of evidence, a threat of physical safety, potential intimidation of a witness, or a risk of flight is feared. It also would require that notice of the search be given within seven days, which the court can extend to 21 days;

- Institute greater judicial protections on the ability of law enforcement to secretly request business records by allowing the recipient of such a warrant to challenge the order, and providing notice to the target of the order if the government intends to use the records in subsequent proceedings;

- Increase oversight over national security letters by allowing the recipient to challenge the order and providing notice to the target of the order if the records are to be used in further proceedings– this would increase protections against the compelled disclosure of library and bookstore records;

- Amend the overly broad definition of the crime of “domestic terrorism” so that it does not infringe on the rights of free speech and freedom of association.

SOME RECOMMENDATIONS:

- Congress should act quickly to pass the reforms enumerated in the SAFE Act.

- Congress should continue to pass reforms to safeguard individual human rights and revoke aspects of the USA PATRIOT Act that are in breach of the rights protected in the US Constitution and international human rights law.
PRINT the following:

[Insert Date Here]

The Honorable George W. Bush
The President of the United States
1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW
Washington DC 20500

[Insert the names of your U.S. senators here]

[Insert the name of your U.S. representative here]


Dear Sirs,

I am writing to ask that you enforce the sunset provisions currently in the USA PATRIOT Act and place sunsets on other provisions that infringe on our individual rights.

On behalf of Amnesty International, I urge you to cosponsor and pass the SAFE Act, which will increase judicial oversight over government surveillance and amend the current definition of "domestic terrorism" so it does not infringe on the rights of free speech and freedom of assembly.

I also urge you to act quickly to bring the USA PATRIOT Act in line with the US Constitutional and international human rights law. Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
[Sign your name here; it would also be helpful to give your address so they know that you are a resident in their area]
 
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