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My mistakeI was referring to Iran
My mistakeI was referring to Iran
Moonlite Star said:Of course its not easy. But if you're determined, you'll find a way. If you have patience, you'll make it. And if you're destined to receive help, you will.
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sd6452 said:I'm not so sure if this is true, I think some countries might go sd-6 and kill you people for leaving. Perhaps by "determined" you mean, they'll sprout wings or walk on the ocean? I'm also think the countries try to influence their people to not find a way out of the country or else there'll be consequences. And people who do try are "made an example." Of course I'm kinda of making this up, but it sounds realistic.
Aside from that, I understand all of your other ideas. Although I'm kind of ambivalent to how I feel about them.
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to noggi16 and facade47: i think the fact that the democracies of the world do very little about human rights is atrocious. however, Iraq was never about freeing the people, and neither is Iran. if it was, don't you think Bush would be screaming about Saudi Arabia where women are oppressed, public executions are frequent, and there is no freedom of speech or democratic rule? this war-like attitude that Bush has is not just about spreading freedom.
There are so many ways Bush can run this war it terrifies me. I doubt he'll be stupid enought to go unilaterally anymore
by determined, i mean they will find a way that will work, no matter what. and sure, walk on the ocean and sprout wings...if they can. heh.
noggi16 said:Obviously you are very lucky and have never lived under a regime like that because it is not an option to "find a way"
sometimes you have to hope someone will do it for you.
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Of course its not easy. But if you're determined, you'll find a way. If you have patience, you'll make it. And if you're destined to receive help, you will.
and i quote from my earlier post:
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Of course its not easy. But if you're determined, you'll find a way. If you have patience, you'll make it. And if you're destined to receive help, you will.
noggi16 said:but its not the same is it. The point is I know if I was in Iran, I'd want help. By force if necessary so if America was to invade that is acceptable.
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i definitely don't think we should attack iran, but just to respond to the comment about iran having nuclear weapons. nukes in the hands of radical, unstable states is quite different than nukes in the hands of America or other western countries. we're not going to fire them off at the slightest provocation (or no provacation at all).cinders said:well in all honesty i dont believe it to be at all acceptable. I dont think innocent people should die over this. If, and only if, there is a decent cause for war, America should get the backing from the UN and secondly should spend alot of time negotiating.
but to be honest, i think America is more of a threat to the world, i mean , they could do just as much damage as Iran, and I ran are very unlikely to use there weapons. Most countries today have nuclear weapons, and if we're allowed them, why aren't Iran allowed them to protect themselves, we have them to protect us. Also America cant try and take over the world, countries are independant, if they want to go to war. fine. but get a reason which makes it worth dying for.
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Moonlite Star said:by determined, i mean they will find a way that will work, no matter what. and sure, walk on the ocean and sprout wings...if they can. heh.
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if a dictator is the reason
take out kim jong il
his people are starving
I agree with what cinders said. Before a war begins, there should be backing from the UN and a lot of negotiating first. and even before that, there should be concrete evidence of WMDs...
well in all honesty i dont believe it to be at all acceptable. I dont think innocent people should die over this. If, and only if, there is a decent cause for war, America should get the backing from the UN and secondly should spend alot of time negotiating.
when the troops are thin, recruit more. when nobody wants to be recruited, force them to fight and kill, that's why i love being an american. we live in a society based on lies, violence, and hypocrisy.ms.katejones said:I don't think we're going to invade Iran because our troops are spread thin in Iraq as it is. The National Guard is stretched to the limit, too. I just don't see how another war is feasible, especially since Iran will not cave like Iraq did.
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the_alliance said:when the troops are thin, recruit more. when nobody wants to be recruited, force them to fight and kill, that's why i love being an american. we live in a society based on lies, violence, and hypocrisy.
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when the troops are thin, recruit more. when nobody wants to be recruited, force them to fight and kill, that's why i love being an american. we live in a society based on lies, violence, and hypocrisy