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What is the title of this story???

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  1. jejones59

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    An underwater expedition gets abducted by a society who has lived below our seas for eons. They observe our surface societies, with an occasional above surface flight in what we call UFO's. They have no crime and collect suface artifacts which have been found at the bottom of the sea and placed in their museums.
    Two of the surface crew members accidentally kill a young girl and man then try to convince everyone it is time to leave.
    Does anyone know the title to this book and/or movie??
    Help?
     
  2. Kevin

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    Jejones59, welcome to Cool Sci-Fi! (y)

    Unfortunately that does not ring a bell for me. Some of the other guys/gals here have a much better memory than I so hopefully one of them will be able to help you out.
     
  3. jejones59

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    :cheers:Thank you Kevin. A co-worker joggled my memory of this story, I just can't remember if it is a book or movie, just a vague memory...
     
  4. audiothor

    audiothor Indie Audio producer

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    I'm usually really good at stuff like this. BUT it doesn't register in my memory banks.

    There was a low budget movie from a long time ago called 'FOES' but I'm not sure if it's that.

    Perhaps if you could remember some more details...... (clues)

    Have you tried www.imdb.com ????

    That's where I usually look in this circumstance.
     
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    :confused:Let's see...What I seem to remember is an underwater expedition getting captured by humans living under our sea floor. They live with no crime and do not want outsiders to know of their existance. They can fly around in UFO's to observe us. They can also time travel. Two of the surface visitors accidentally kill two of the underground people and convince the others that they have to leave. All but one female scientist leave. She wants to stay and study these people. And after all these people already told them that no one was to leave for the safey of their subsurface society. After getting their submarine into one of the underwater chambers they escape. While running towards our Eastern seashores, a large craft gives chase and engulfs the sub. Shortly after the sub is released to the open sea. The crew just thinks that they are being release due to them being so close to land. When they come close to shore and surface they notice there are no city lights. Then they realize that they were transport back in time to where they couldn't tell anyone their story.
     
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    Wow, sound pretty good. I hope we can identify this cause I'd like to read or watch it too!
     
  7. mariamosh

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    Sounds really cool, I badly want to read/see it NOW!!
     
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    This is crazy...I know I didn't just dream this...is there anyone out there who knows this story???
     
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    I think I remember catching part of the film you're talking about but I can't remember anything about it. I asked on a board on IMDB for some help and we'll see what comes of that. As soon as I get an answer there I'll make sure to post it here. Sorry I can't be more help.
     
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    I got some answers from the "I Need to Know" IMDB board and here are some of the things they came up with. "Atragon" was the first one someone came up with and "Ido zero daisakusen" was the other one. So check them out and please let me know if either of them is the one you were looking for. If not I'll ask them for some more suggestions. I hope this helps. :)
     
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    I've just watched the trailer and it must be a contender

    QUOTE
    Ride the JUGGERNAUT of destruction from the depths of the Seven Seas to the Outer Limits of Space!

    An adventure beyond your wildest dreams - as a Super-Weapon meets Super-Force with the fate of the Universe at stake!

    See! The terror swath of the deadly Astral Disks
    .
    See! The Exotic Rites and Grotesque Passions of the Kingdom of Mu

    See! Underwater Juggernauts of Destruction!

    See the JUGGERNAUT of Destruction Challenge the Incredible EMPIRE Beneath the Sea!

    The Ultimate Weapon!
    unquote.

    No one could accuse them of underplaying the drama, could they?
     
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    Audiothor, for which title is that trailer for?
     
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    'Atragon'

    There's a trailer available on IMDB from wait for it....1963

    No wonder your memories of it are a bit fuzzy, jejones59

    Well done FilmDiva6 for getting the title.
     
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    A non-Godzilla 1960's movie from ToHo? Oh, now I've got to track this one down!

     
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    Thank you, Audiothor, I do what I can. :) I know how frustrating it can be to know so much about a movie yet still know nothing about it's title and any real specifics that can help track it down. I'm glad the "Atragon" seemed like the right movie everyone was looking for. I'm happy to help when I can. I hope everyone, including myself, can track this film down and get a look at it. That quote made it sound like an absolute must see movie for me, I can't wait.
     
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    Not quite...the story in my head has the underworld residents as a peacful culture who do not want the surface people even to know they exist. I wish I could just remember the title. The more I think of it, I don't think it was a movie, but more a book or short story. Possibly even from a magazine...not comic book. Thank you for the help. I also do not remember it being Japanese.
     
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    Oh Dear!

    So....The quest continues.......
     
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    I guess I will never know the title. The story is in my head but I cannot remeber where I know it from. I do believe it is a book I may have read years ago.
     
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    UNDER THE SEA:


    submarines, undersea cities, underwater living

    Jules Verne did NOT invent the submarine in Twenty Thousand Leagues
    Under the Sea
    (1870) since there had been real submarines for
    some time. Your Humble Webmaster attended Robert Fulton Elementary School
    in Brookly, New York, as a child, and reminds you that Robert
    Fulton
    built his famous submarine in 1801 -- named "The
    Nautilus" -- eaxactly as Jules Verne named his famous submarine 69 years
    later.

    Verne wasn't even the first to use a submarine in fiction. Theophile Gautier
    had a short story published in 1848 with a submarine integral to the
    plot: "Les Deux Etoiles."

    The earliest underwater civilizations in fiction appear to be "The Crystal
    City" by Andre Laurie (1895), and "The Scarlet Empire" by David M. Parry
    (1906). A more complete listing of undersea science fiction
    and fantasy, and fiction profoundly about the ocean would include:
    1. Kobo Abe's "Inter Ice Age 4" (1959, English translation 1970):
      global warming will melt polar ice and flood the continents, humans are
      modified for underwater living, protagonist is horrified to find out
      that government is stealing babies and repressing dissent
    2. Piers Anthony's "Mercycle" (1991)
    3. T. J. Bass' "The Godwhale" [Ballentine Books, 1974]: humans are
      modified for underwater living
    4. James Blish's novella "Surface Tension" (1952): human astronauts
      with advanced genetic engineering technology are stranded on a
      virtually uninhabitable planet, so they download their personalities
      into genetically-engineered underwater single-celled organisms;
      a masterpiece which helped to turn Your Humble Webmaster towards
      science fiction authorship
    5. James Blish and Norman L. Knight's "A Torrent of Faces" (1967):
      undersea living in an overpopulated future
    6. John Boyd's "The Girl and the Dolphin" (1973): short fiction
    7. David Brin's "Startide Rising" (1983):
      humans, and genetically-enhanced dolphins and apes go starfaring together
      in the "Uplift" series of novels
    8. Kenneth Bulmer's "City Under the Sea" [Ace, 1957; Avon]: humans are
      modified for underwater living
    9. Kenneth Bulmer's "Beyond the Silver Sky" (1961)
    10. Arthur C. Clarke's "The Deep Range" [Harcourt Brace, 1957; Signet]: the most
      comprehensive attempt to detail underwater living
    11. Arthur C. Clarke's "Dolphin Island" (1963)
    12. Hal Clement's "Ocean on Top" [Daw, 1973]: humans are
      modified for underwater living
    13. Stanton Coblentz's "The Sunken World" [Fantasy Publishing Co. Inc.,
      1949; in magazine publication 1928]: Atlantis is still thriving
    14. Michael J. Coney's "Neptune's Cauldron" (1981)
    15. Richard Cowper's "Profundis" (19??): survivors of the holocaust
      live in a gigantic submarine
    16. Gordon R. Dickson's "The Space Swimmers" [Berkley, 1967]: humans are
      modified for underwater living
    17. Frank Herbert's "Under Pressure" [Ballentine Books, 1974]
      a.k.a. The Dragon in the Sea [Doubleday, 1956; Science Fiction Book Club]
      a.k.a. 21st Century Sun [Avon, 1956]: focus on submarines in
      commerce and warfare
    18. Lee Hoffman's "The Caves of Karst" (1969)
    19. Alexander Jablokov's "A Deeper Sea" (1992): whale is dropped
      into Jupiter's oceans for first-contact purposes
    20. Henry Kuttner and C.L. Moore (writing as Laurence O'Donnell)'s "Fury"
      [Grosset & Dunlap, 1950; Lancer]
      a.k.a. Destination Infinity [Avon, 1958; Garland, 1976]: the
      undersea city happens to be on Venus, which we know today to be about
      800 degrees too hot for an ocean *sigh*
    21. Sterling Lanier's "The Kings of the Sea" (1968) humans and selkies
    22. Tanith Lee's "The Dragon Hord" (1971): undersea by magic
    23. Gaston Leroux's "La Bataille Invisible [tr. as "The Veiled Prisoner", London: 1923]
      a knock-off of Jules Verne, featuring a submarine filled with bizarre gadgetry
    24. H. P. Lovecraft's "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" (1936): the evil
      Deep Ones, half human, half alien
    25. John Masefield's "The Midnight Folk" (1927): undersea magic
    26. Robert Merle's "The Day of the Dolphin" (1967, English translation 1969)
    27. Roy Meyers's "Dolphin Boy" (1967)
    28. Maureen McHugh's "Half the Day is Night" (1994)
    29. Vonda McIntyre's "Starfarers" (19zz): and sequels
    30. Ted Mooney's "Easy Travel to Other Planets" (1981)
    31. Edith Nesbit's "Wet Magic" (1913): magical undersea library
    32. Edgar Alan Poe's story "The City in the Sea" (1831)
    33. Frederik Pohl & Jack Williamson's "Undersea Quest" [Gnome, 1954;
      Ballentine Books] juvenile, pseudo-Atlantis
    34. Frederik Pohl & Jack Williamson's "Undersea Fleet" [Gnome, 1956
      Ballentine Books] juvenile, pseudo-Atlantis
    35. Frederik Pohl & Jack Williamson's "Undersea City" [Gnome, 1958
      Ballentine Books] juvenile, pseudo-Atlantis
    36. Frederik Pohl & Jack Williamson's "Land's End" [1988]
    37. Joe Poyer's "Operation Mallaca" (1968)
    38. Margaret St. Clair's "The Dolphins of Altair" (1967)
    39. Carol Severance's "Reefsong" (1991)
    40. Robert Silverberg's short fiction "Ishmael in Love" (1970):
      genius dolphin foils badguys but makes bathetic fool of himself
      by falling in love with a woman dolphin researcher
    41. Robert Silverberg's "The Face of the Waters" (1996)
    42. Alison Sinclair's "Blueheart" (19zz)
      [UK: London: Millennium (Orion) Nov 1996,
      US: HarperPrism, May 1998]: ocean-world, terraforming,
      humans adapted to undersea living
    43. Joan Slonczewski's "A Door Into Ocean" (1986)
    44. Leo Szilard's short fiction "The Voice of the Dolphin" (19zz):
      in short story collection of same name
    45. Lisa Tuttle's short fiction "From a Sinking Ship" In "Dispatches from the
      Frontiers of the Female Mind, Jen Green and Sarah Lefanu, eds., (1985)
    46. Sydney J. Van Scyoc's "Drowntide" (1987)
    47. Sydney J. Van Scyoc's "Deepwater Dreams" (1991)
    48. Jules Verne's "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" [1870; Smith, 1873;
      Heritage, 1957; Fitzroy, 1960; Bantam; Air; Lancer; Pyramid
    49. Jules Verne's "The Mysterious Island" [Scribners, 1876; Heritage, 1959;
      Permanent; Bantam
    50. Ian Watson's "The Jonah Kit" (1975)
    51. Dennis Wheatley's "They Found Atlantis" [Lippincott, 1936; Ballentine]: Atlantis
      is still thriving
    52. James White's "The Watch Below" (1966)
    53. Jack Williamson's "The Green Girl" [Avon, 1950]: humans are
      modified for underwater living
    54. Gene Wolfe's "The Book of the New Sun" novels (1980-1983):
      intelligent sea-monster "Abaia"
    55. Stephen Wul's "Temple of the Past" (1958, English translation 1973)
    56. Roger Zelazny's short fiction "Kjwalll'kje'k'koothailll'kej'k" (19zz)
    57. Roger Zelazny's "Nine Princes in Amber" (1970): chase scene down
      an underwater stairway to "Remba", the undersea double of Amber
    58. xxxx's "yyyy" (19zz)

    Closely related to, and overlapping the list of Underwater Civilizations is
    the more Fantasy-oriented list of Atlantis fictions:
    1. Pierre Benoit's "L'Atlantide" (1919)
      a.k.a. Atlantida [Duffield, 1920; Ave, 1964]
    2. Frena Bloomfield's "Sky Fleet of Atlantis" (1979)
    3. Stanton Coblentz's "The Sunken World" [Fantasy Publishing Co. Inc.,
      1949]: Atlantis is still thriving
    4. Jane Gaskell's "The Serpent" [Paperback Library, 1968; St.Martins, 1977]
    5. Jane Gaskell's "Atlan" [Paperback Library, 1968; St.Martins, 1978]
    6. Jane Gaskell's "The City" [Paperback Library, 1968; St.Martins, 1978]
    7. C. J. Cutcliffe Hyne's "The Lost Continent" [Harper, 1900; Ballentine;
      Train, 1974]
    8. Ursula K. Le Guin's "The New Atlantis" [1975]
    9. David M. Parry's "The Scarlet Empire" [1906]
    10. E. E. Smith's "Triplanetary" [1934; Fantasy, 1948; Pyramid]
    11. Jules Verne's "Twenty Thousand Leagues Under the Sea" [1870; Smith, 1873;
      Heritage, 1957; Fitzroy, 1960; Bantam; Air; Lancer; Pyramid
    12. Dennis Wheatley's "They Found Atlantis" [Lippincott, 1936; Ballentine]: Atlantis
      is still thriving
    And see: "Atlantean Chronicles", by Henry M. Eichner [Alhambra, California:
    Fantasy Publishing Co: 1971]: the most comprehensive listing of
    Atlantis theme in fiction, plus informal theorizings
     
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