Irina and Katya!

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ProjectChristmas

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I have developed this theory recently and posted it somewhere else on here, but felt maybe it would get more attention in a more appropriate place like this.

What if Katya was in fact Irina?

Just think about that a moment and you'll probably come across some of the same interesting coinsidences that I did. Here are some of my supporting facts.

Given the fact the the real Irina seems unwilling to return, maybe this was a way to recast her while giving it sometime to work out.

Season two introduced the technology to make this possible and Irina was critical in developing it. Katya looks more like "The Man" now anyway...lol

Katya was extremely attracted to Jack. It was made evident that Irina still had feelings for Jack and this could explain why he was weirdly attracted to Katya as well.

When Katya found out that Nadia was in Sloane's custody, she seemed over emotional, especially for the Katya Character (A tough rigid Russian woman). Maybe maternal feelings for her daughter.

Wonder why Irina wouldnt personally help Jack with the extraction of Syd and Vaugh in North Korea? Maybe she did!

There was an unexplained relationship between Katya with Sark & Lauren, which would make much more sense. You can take this deeper, the Covanent was mentioned with "The Man" during the episode with McKenas Cole (Quentin Tarantino).

I won't go on and on, but you get the idea. Would love to hear people's thoughts on this and if you have something that would prove this wrong, please do so.
 
intersting theory, but then why would irina try 2 kill syd?
they just might (irina and katya) work 2gether but are not the same person.
and if this theroy is right-jack wont know its irina, will he?!
 
Irina almost killed Syd at the end of season 1, so what would stop her from doing it again. Particularly if she were helping cover up what Lauren was about to tell her. As for Jack I was suggesting not that he knew, but it might help explain his attraction to Katya.
 
ProjectChristmas said:
Irina almost killed Syd at the end of season 1, so what would stop her from doing it again.  Particularly if she were helping cover up what Lauren was about to tell her.  As for Jack I was suggesting not that he knew, but it might help explain his attraction to Katya.
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when she shot syd, it was to save her as she explained later, true, she might have lied, but still i dont think katya is irina. there are different. and i think jack mayb attracted to her cuz he wants 2 use her somehow. something fishy is going on, but i dont think thats it!
 
As I mentioned in the other topic where you mentioned this, not only would thousands of Lena/Irina fans strenuously object to this, but I find it difficult to believe that Jack would not be tipped off to her identity given the intimate circumstances of a couple of their encounters . . . there would be the possibility of some sort of agreement between them, but why then the need for probing the IM connection, which was directly connected to Katya and which Katya could have personally explained to him (if she was, in fact, Irina, that is)? It's a possibility, but I see it as one that requires too much suspension of disbelief to sustain it. ;)
 
I don't think that Katya is Irina, I think that katya did try to shoot Syd to protect her from finding out what Lauren had to tell her. I think that Irina was somehow involved in whatever it was that Jack did to Syd. I don't know if it was willingly but I still think that she was involved.
 
ProjectChristmas said:
Didn't Jack enter Syd into the Project Christmas program after Irina left.  One lead to the other I was under the impression.
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Yes (after the traffic accident), but Project Christmas and SAB 47 (the Lauren connection) are different things. Also, we can hardly be certain that Katya planned to shoot Sydney "to protect her from finding out what Lauren had to tell her." She could have been preventing Sydney from interfering with the Covenant plan to acquire the Sphere of Life. Surely she could have chosen less lethal means. ;)
 
Very interesting theory, ProjectChristmas. Though I would disagree with you, a few points that you have made are very true.

Although it would be very unlikely that Katya is Irina, perhaps Jack has met Katya in the past and simply not remembered. That might explain why he's so attractive to her!! ^_^
 
No they said very clearly that they had never met during their first encounter. I personally hope that this isnt the case and it seems everyone shares that opinion. No one has come up with any solid evidence to dispute my theory, which is why I felt strongly enough to post in the first place. Again maybe I am grasping at nothing, but I felt that there is an obvious gap in the show without Irina and in trying to figure out what they were gonna do this theory appeared to me when Katya escorted Syd out of the russian base and her credientials said "General Derevko". If you are married for so many years dont you think you would atleast see a picture of your wife's sister or recognize her at all. THen again maybe Im desperate to prove my thoery...lol
 
verdantheart said:
Yes (after the traffic accident), but Project Christmas and SAB 47 (the Lauren connection) are different things.
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We don't know that these are different things. In fact, I am a believer that SAB 47 is in fact very related to Project Christmas. I have recently come to a few more conclussions. If Jack was going to train her as a child, he is eventually going to take advantage of it or if not him someone will. I have to assume that her two lost years were exactly that "the using of her previous project christmas training". To take it one step further, what exactly was it she did during this time? She found the most important pieces to the Rambaldi mystery! All of these events are in fact linked in my opinion and until we are given different evidence these are the most logical conclusions.
 
ProjectChristmas said:
We don't know that these are different things.  In fact, I am a believer that SAB 47 is in fact very related to Project Christmas.
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They might be related, but "related" is not "the same." Project Christmas involved children other than Sydney, whom I am certain were not part of SAB 47 (and probably not a similar project, either). The indication is that SAB 47 is specific to the Bristows. And since we know very little about SAB 47 at this point, drawing any conclusions based on it--and especially from any guessed at relationship with Project Christmas--puts us on shaky ground indeed. Sure, you could be right, but all you have so far is a chain of guesses. ;)
 
is that not what we all have... our own ideas and this is the platform in which to share them. I think we are all anxious for Jan 5th. Looking forward to it.
 
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