(I will link this thread to something on Facade so please don't move it from this forum).
A lot of you think that up to this point on the show, Vaughn should leave Lauren.
Wrong.
This is why Vaughn is still with Lauren:
It's NOT because he DOESN'T realize that he loves Sydney - he does - or because he doesn't have the spark that he had with Lauren anymore - he knows his feelings for his wife have waned (thanks to Sydney's presence and the fact that he's had time to get in touch with his real feelings).
He knows he loves Syd and that he'd much rather be with her.
But he has a moral responsibility with Lauren, that he has, for the most part, respected. They are married. Marriage is something that you have to respect. And he is doing the right thing by staying with Lauren.
Plus, he doesn't know that Lauren is bad. He thinks that she's good and that she loves him. So even though he loves Sydney, he realizes that he messed up by "trying" to move on so quickly and that he should have had "faith", as Syd put it on "The Two."
But he knows it's too late, and he has to accept his current situation.
Of course, since the scene in "Prelude" (3x07) in which he and Syd almost kissed ("and although everything's changed, some things don't. I'm not gonna lose you twice"), he has had many moments in which he has followed his heart.
Whether Vaughn EVER loved Lauren or not has nothing to do with the fact that he knows that what he had with Sydney was a lot stronger than what he ever had with Lauren. I think that he probably did love Lauren at one point. But in a selfish way - he was trying to fill the void of Sydney's abscence by marrying someone who he really didn't know that much.
But ever since he got the news that Sydney was alive after her 2 missing years, he's had a huge conflict that of course we all have read about a ton. He was committed to his wife, but as Season 3 progressed all the way up to "Crossings" (3x12) he was confused on how he felt about her. So he made up his mind and decided that he was not about to disappoint his wife (who he thinks is in love with him, repeated for emphasis), and was gonna try as much as he possibly could to love his wife and forget about Sydney and distance himself from her. That's why he was a jerk on the plane on that episode.
This changed when he realized that he was about to be killed on Crossings. He realized life is short and you have to follow your heart. But when he got home, it was back to his harsh reality.
Even though he realized, once again, that he loves Sydney and that "in my life, there is only person", he wasn't about to tell his wife that he loves Sydney and not her, and ask for a divorce on that fact. This, he thought, would have been heart-breaking for Lauren and completely unfair, and that totally makes sense.
In some ways, every time we see Vaughn and Sydney together (hugging or whatever) like we did on Facade tonight, it shows a real weakness in Vaughn, since he's not supposed to have contact like that with any other women other than his wife. This would be specially true IF Lauren really loved Vaughn - but since she doesn't, they really haven't been connecting as husband and wife lately. Instead, Lauren just tries to make everything work on physical attraction alone (proven on her scene buying lingerie on "After Six" and her kissing Vaughn on the lips seductively on "Blowback" at an inappropriate moment - that's why Vaughn asked her "what was that all about?"). This has, in my opinion, given Vaughn an almost good-enough reason to get back in touch with Sydney on an emotional level. Emphasis on "almost."
And that's why Vaughn didn't hesitate to give Sydney a big hug when he saw her having a hard time at the end of Facade. Lauren has almost given him a good reason to go after his real love.
If Lauren wasn't bad and was genuinely in love with Vaughn, he would be screwed for life in my opinion, and he'd be better off transferring to another CIA office in order to avoid remembering what his relationship with Sydney was like.
But, since she IS bad, it gives him more than a million legitimate reasons to divorce her.
He doesn't know that yet, though. So when I read the comments of some Sydney/Vaughn "shippers" on how Vaughn should divorce his wife NOW, I shake my head every single time.
There is no way a good man would ask his wife for a divorce or try to separate her, when he thinks his wife loves him and they're married. He has to put his wife first and work through their problems.
If his wife starts to distance himself a lot from him, then he has to take it up to his wife first before getting back in an emotional way with another woman. Not only is he kidding himself, but also being unfair to the woman he's connecting with (in this case Sydney). ("I won't be the other woman").
Sometimes I think JJ didn't intend to make Lauren bad when he came up with the idea of Vaughn's marriage during Sydney's abscence, but he couldn't find another way out, since he realized Vaughn and Sydney had to be reunited eventually.
And, unlike a lot of people, I think this has been a really good story. Now we know the ending of the little Alias Season 3 Triangle. Vaughn will have a way out of his "loveless marriage" (Weiss quote), when he finds out Lauren has really been deceiving him and that she is Covenant.
And when he does, I bet all of you Vaughn/Sydney shippers will cry a river in emotion.
I just hope that the intentions of the Covenant and Arvin Sloane, along with the continuation of the discoveries, studies and theories of Rambaldi, return to the spotlight of the show. Right now, even though the Covenant remains active as a topic in every episode, the focus is still on Syd and Vaughn.
Three other things I hope for are the return of Lena Olin, more frequent appearances by my favorite guest of all time, Mr. McKenas Cole played by the brilliant Quentin Tarantino, and maybe, just maybe, some more (and more frequent) appearances by Bradley Cooper, the famous Mr. Tippin ("how did you hear about the Circumference?" - how I loved 1-21 "Rendezvous").
Now, will you Syd/Vaughn shippers please appreciate the story of the triangle a little bit more and stop hating Lauren Reed so much???
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!
And BTW, I think the show would have been terrific this season if Lauren WASN'T bad. Although very frustrating, it would be interesting to see if Vaughn would leave his wife for Sydney after a while, or maybe because he realized that he was being selfish when he married Lauren since he was just trying to fill the void of a woman in his life. Also, if Will had stayed on the show, what if Sydney had started dating her long-time friend, fallen in love with him, and then Lauren was revealed, leaving Vaughn without Sydney? That would be kinda twisted too...
Any thoughts? :blink:
:redhair:
A lot of you think that up to this point on the show, Vaughn should leave Lauren.
Wrong.
This is why Vaughn is still with Lauren:
It's NOT because he DOESN'T realize that he loves Sydney - he does - or because he doesn't have the spark that he had with Lauren anymore - he knows his feelings for his wife have waned (thanks to Sydney's presence and the fact that he's had time to get in touch with his real feelings).
He knows he loves Syd and that he'd much rather be with her.
But he has a moral responsibility with Lauren, that he has, for the most part, respected. They are married. Marriage is something that you have to respect. And he is doing the right thing by staying with Lauren.
Plus, he doesn't know that Lauren is bad. He thinks that she's good and that she loves him. So even though he loves Sydney, he realizes that he messed up by "trying" to move on so quickly and that he should have had "faith", as Syd put it on "The Two."
But he knows it's too late, and he has to accept his current situation.
Of course, since the scene in "Prelude" (3x07) in which he and Syd almost kissed ("and although everything's changed, some things don't. I'm not gonna lose you twice"), he has had many moments in which he has followed his heart.
Whether Vaughn EVER loved Lauren or not has nothing to do with the fact that he knows that what he had with Sydney was a lot stronger than what he ever had with Lauren. I think that he probably did love Lauren at one point. But in a selfish way - he was trying to fill the void of Sydney's abscence by marrying someone who he really didn't know that much.
But ever since he got the news that Sydney was alive after her 2 missing years, he's had a huge conflict that of course we all have read about a ton. He was committed to his wife, but as Season 3 progressed all the way up to "Crossings" (3x12) he was confused on how he felt about her. So he made up his mind and decided that he was not about to disappoint his wife (who he thinks is in love with him, repeated for emphasis), and was gonna try as much as he possibly could to love his wife and forget about Sydney and distance himself from her. That's why he was a jerk on the plane on that episode.
This changed when he realized that he was about to be killed on Crossings. He realized life is short and you have to follow your heart. But when he got home, it was back to his harsh reality.
Even though he realized, once again, that he loves Sydney and that "in my life, there is only person", he wasn't about to tell his wife that he loves Sydney and not her, and ask for a divorce on that fact. This, he thought, would have been heart-breaking for Lauren and completely unfair, and that totally makes sense.
In some ways, every time we see Vaughn and Sydney together (hugging or whatever) like we did on Facade tonight, it shows a real weakness in Vaughn, since he's not supposed to have contact like that with any other women other than his wife. This would be specially true IF Lauren really loved Vaughn - but since she doesn't, they really haven't been connecting as husband and wife lately. Instead, Lauren just tries to make everything work on physical attraction alone (proven on her scene buying lingerie on "After Six" and her kissing Vaughn on the lips seductively on "Blowback" at an inappropriate moment - that's why Vaughn asked her "what was that all about?"). This has, in my opinion, given Vaughn an almost good-enough reason to get back in touch with Sydney on an emotional level. Emphasis on "almost."
And that's why Vaughn didn't hesitate to give Sydney a big hug when he saw her having a hard time at the end of Facade. Lauren has almost given him a good reason to go after his real love.
If Lauren wasn't bad and was genuinely in love with Vaughn, he would be screwed for life in my opinion, and he'd be better off transferring to another CIA office in order to avoid remembering what his relationship with Sydney was like.
But, since she IS bad, it gives him more than a million legitimate reasons to divorce her.
He doesn't know that yet, though. So when I read the comments of some Sydney/Vaughn "shippers" on how Vaughn should divorce his wife NOW, I shake my head every single time.
There is no way a good man would ask his wife for a divorce or try to separate her, when he thinks his wife loves him and they're married. He has to put his wife first and work through their problems.
If his wife starts to distance himself a lot from him, then he has to take it up to his wife first before getting back in an emotional way with another woman. Not only is he kidding himself, but also being unfair to the woman he's connecting with (in this case Sydney). ("I won't be the other woman").
Sometimes I think JJ didn't intend to make Lauren bad when he came up with the idea of Vaughn's marriage during Sydney's abscence, but he couldn't find another way out, since he realized Vaughn and Sydney had to be reunited eventually.
And, unlike a lot of people, I think this has been a really good story. Now we know the ending of the little Alias Season 3 Triangle. Vaughn will have a way out of his "loveless marriage" (Weiss quote), when he finds out Lauren has really been deceiving him and that she is Covenant.
And when he does, I bet all of you Vaughn/Sydney shippers will cry a river in emotion.
I just hope that the intentions of the Covenant and Arvin Sloane, along with the continuation of the discoveries, studies and theories of Rambaldi, return to the spotlight of the show. Right now, even though the Covenant remains active as a topic in every episode, the focus is still on Syd and Vaughn.
Three other things I hope for are the return of Lena Olin, more frequent appearances by my favorite guest of all time, Mr. McKenas Cole played by the brilliant Quentin Tarantino, and maybe, just maybe, some more (and more frequent) appearances by Bradley Cooper, the famous Mr. Tippin ("how did you hear about the Circumference?" - how I loved 1-21 "Rendezvous").
Now, will you Syd/Vaughn shippers please appreciate the story of the triangle a little bit more and stop hating Lauren Reed so much???
PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!!!!!!!!
And BTW, I think the show would have been terrific this season if Lauren WASN'T bad. Although very frustrating, it would be interesting to see if Vaughn would leave his wife for Sydney after a while, or maybe because he realized that he was being selfish when he married Lauren since he was just trying to fill the void of a woman in his life. Also, if Will had stayed on the show, what if Sydney had started dating her long-time friend, fallen in love with him, and then Lauren was revealed, leaving Vaughn without Sydney? That would be kinda twisted too...
Any thoughts? :blink:
:redhair:
- i AM a HUGE s/v shipper - but as Suzi said - there are more reasons to disliking Lauren Reed's character than the void she creates betweeen S/V. As verdantheart has said so many times in her column - lauren 's character seems to make no real sense......the big evil turnaround after being so useless.......and we all thought she was gonna be evil from the start so her turning evil was no big reveal - just something we were made to wait for for half a season :blink: - and now we're waiting again for the stupid CIA tor realise. :blink: :blink: 