Dismiss Notice
Alien Soup is a free community for fans of science-fiction, horror, & fantasy! Everybody is welcome here.

Herc's Seen the Finale

Discussion in 'Alias' started by AliasALIAS, May 4, 2003.

  1. AliasALIAS

    AliasALIAS Guest

    Herc gives the finale 4 out of 5 stars.

    Major spoilers in this article!
    Do not read unless you want to be spoiled, which I unfortunately now am!

    from aintitcoolnews

    Alias 2.21-2.22 FAQ

    What are they called?
    “Second Double” and “The Telling.”

    Who’s responsible?
    “Second Double” teleplay is credited to executive story editor Crystal Nix Hines (“Passage, Part 2”). “The Telling” teleplay is credited to series mastermind J.J. Abrams (the jaw-dropping superbowl episode “Phase One”).

    What does TV Guide say?
    “The spy drama ends its second season with a two-hour tale of lives - and loyalties - in jeopardy. Framed by the machinations of Francie's evil double, Will becomes a hunted man after the CIA targets him as a traitor. Syd is the only one who can prove otherwise, but Will's situation goes from bad to worse when Vaughn uncovers evidence that makes Miss Bristow doubt her fugitive friend's innocence. Meanwhile, Jack comes face-to-face with a ‘new’ Sloane, who makes his old ally an unsettling offer; and Irina (Lena Olin) lures her daughter into a secret meeting that could lead to a major revelation ... or an execution. Carrie: Amanda Foreman.”

    What did Abrams says about this one again?
    “I feel like this year we have an even better ending," series creator told zap2it.com here. "If you're a longtime or a new fan of the show, I think it will blow your mind. It's that feeling of I have a giant secret that I just can't wait for everyone to see."

    The big news?
    Francie is not K-Directorate superspy Anna Espinosa. She’s Sark’s girlfriend, Allison Doren, a participant (like Syd) in the spy-kid training program Project Christmas.

    The far bigger news?
    Come next season, the “Alias” writers got a lot of ‘splainin’ to do!

    What evidence makes Syd doubt Will’s innocence?
    Allison Doren has done things to Will’s brain (to say nothing of his eyes). He forgets important details of his own life.

    What else is going on with Allison Doren?
    A lot! For starters, when Syd suspects Francie might be targeted by Syd’s enemies, Syd reveals to “Francie” that she works for the CIA.

    Do we learn what the deal is with that artificial heart thingie Syd and Dixon recovered at the end of the last episode?
    Turns out it is a component of “The Telling,” a Rambaldi device made up of 47 smaller Rambaldi devices.

    What does “The Telling” do?
    “There’s a change coming, Jack,” Sloane says late in the final hour. “I’ve seen things recently. I've seen what's possible. There's a change coming, Jack. Something even I couldn't imagine.”

    Exactly what did Sloane learn from the David Carradine character?
    We do not learn.

    What sin did Sloane commit 30 years ago that led to Emily Sloane’s death?
    We do not learn.

    Is the “new” Sloane a “good” Sloane?
    Probably not, but we really do not learn.

    Where does Sloane meet Jack?
    In a Los Angeles restaurant.

    When does Sloane make his offer to Jack?
    Near the end of the first hour

    What offer does Sloane make to Jack?
    “Come back to our partnership, Jack. I will tell you everything I’ve learned about Rambaldi. […} Now’s the time to sign up. For years I collected his artifacts, as if that were the point. […] I am one move away from proving to you that it is so much more than that. And this time, Sydney won’t be a pawn in our venture.”

    How does Irina lure Syd into a secret meeting?
    With little difficulty.

    Is the secret meeting with 15th century seer Milo Rmabaldi?
    If it is, Syd doesn’t know it.

    Do we learn why the woman depicted in Rambaldi’s “utter desolation” warning looks so much more like Syd than Irina?
    Perhaps. Irina’s last words are: “It’s you in the prophecy, Sydney, not me. Only you can stop him. Good luck, sweetheart. I love you.”

    What was that prophecy again?
    “This woman here depicted will possess unseen marks, signs that she will be the one to bring forth my works. Bind them with fury, a burning anger, unless prevented at vulgar cost. This woman will render the greatest power unto utter desolation.”

    Does Carrie Bowman still want to have sushi with Marshall Flinkman now that disaster has been averted?
    Carrie is unseen in “Second Double,” but we learn in “The Telling” that there was a sushi date. A sweaty one.

    Greg Grunberg (Agent Weiss) and Amanda Foreman (Agent Bowman) played a couple on Abrams’ “Felicity.” Do they meet?
    I don’t think so.

    Does Marshall feel threatened?
    Marshall actually seeks out Weiss for advice!

    What’s good?
    The questions posed in the finale are completely fascinating.

    What’s not so good?
    The absence of answers is completely infuriating.

    How does it end, spoiler-boy?
    Syd is reunited with Vaughn, who has very, very very, very, very surprising news.

    Herc’s rating for “Alias” 2.21?

    Herc’s rating for “Alias” 2.22?

    ***** better than we deserve
    **** better than most motion pictures
    *** actually worth your valuable time
    ** as horrible as most stuff on TV
    * makes you quietly pray for bulletins
  2. Espionage

    Espionage Rocket Ranger

    Mar 5, 2003
    OMG! i shud not have read that!! argggggghhhhh, im gonna be in suspense 4 ages now! damm, why cant the UK show the show at the same time as u guys! tell u what though, after the article, there's a response table and one of the links was particularly shocking! i mean MAJORLY!!!!!
    Link here if u wanna be even more spoiled! MAJOR REACTION SPOILER!

  3. WTF?! LOZ I TOTALLY READ THAT!!! OKAY I'M LIKE :jawdrop: right now. I want to SCREAM! I'M SO CONFUSED!!!!!! ARG!
    --Mandy :angelic:
  4. silva

    silva Ensign

    Apr 19, 2003
  5. Kara

    Kara eternally nostalgic

    Apr 26, 2003
    under your bed
    I want to read it but I don't want to read it.... I'm so torn!!!
  6. ryancrow15

    ryancrow15 Rocket Ranger

    There are two things I need to say:

    1- :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: I am shocked

    2-I hate Vaughn,now they are gonna get married and ruin everything! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :wtf:
  7. nance

    nance TUMS

    Apr 18, 2003
    OOOoops did i just read that??!!! ::bangs head on desk:: I'm soo weeaak!!
  8. AliasALIAS

    AliasALIAS Guest

    Correction: Herc gave it 4 out of 5 stars, not 4 out of 4.

    Also added Herc's rating system:

    ***** better than we deserve
    **** better than most motion pictures
    *** actually worth your valuable time
    ** as horrible as most stuff on TV
    * makes you quietly pray for bulletins
  9. Alias Elle

    Alias Elle Rocket Ranger

    Dec 1, 2002
    Los Angeles, CA
    Wow... ::walks around in a daze:: Oh, I can't wait to see this!

    ~Me :angel2:
  10. Marlene

    Marlene Guest

    roughly 7 hours away!
  11. Kara

    Kara eternally nostalgic

    Apr 26, 2003
    under your bed
    3 hours 15 minutes for me... Can't wait!!
  12. Moriel

    Moriel Banned

    Feb 27, 2003
    Mafia Headquarters
    7 hours! yahoo! i can't wait any longer! oh man i just remembered after it's over we have to wait 5 months till we get to see the season 3 premire. oh man.

    but still, i can't wait! yahoo!
  13. aliaschick820

    aliaschick820 Rocket Ranger

    Mar 4, 2003
    somewhere in NJ
    oh my goodness. i can't wait for it. about a little less than 6 hours for me to go. agggg...
  14. AliasHombre

    AliasHombre Rocket Ranger

    Mar 2, 2003
    must resist...reading
  15. Alias_Gay

    Alias_Gay Rocket Ranger

    Jan 27, 2003
    Even though I have been spoiled already ... I must NOT read this ...

    * runs away from PC *

  16. sydandvaughn4evr

    sydandvaughn4evr Rocket Ranger

    Mar 17, 2003
  17. sydandvaughn4evr

    sydandvaughn4evr Rocket Ranger

    Mar 17, 2003
  18. Alias_Gay

    Alias_Gay Rocket Ranger

    Jan 27, 2003
    Once again ... must not read ... :blink:
  19. sydandvaughn4evr

    sydandvaughn4evr Rocket Ranger

    Mar 17, 2003
    I'm gonna f-in Kill somebody!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  20. Agent Syd

    Agent Syd Rocket Ranger

    Mar 22, 2003

    Curiosity killed this Cat's shipper dreams!!!! :cat2: :stretcher: :brokenheart: :cuss: :wtf:

Share This Page