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Politics UK unrest + Royal Wedding

Discussion in 'Open Chat' started by Tim, Mar 28, 2011.

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  1. Tim

    Tim Creative Writer

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    Te following is a biased personal viewpoint of what is going down here. I'm an anti-cuts activist so although I try to be balanced, of course it never will be, much like academia!

    You've probably seen some inflammatory news coming out of London after this Saturday. There were loads of groups involved in all sorts of things,but the police decided to make mistakes again.

    I didn't get to this event due to childcare issues, but loads of my mates went, a number came back bruised and bleeding.

    There is going to be a furore soon about a number of things that went off. Sure, some anarchists went out, 250 strong, paintballs, smoke,flares,kicking in windows, etc. But there are numerous groups of anarchists and most of them are peaceful right now.

    Some pics

    http://www.counterfire.org/index.ph...ages-from-tuc-march-and-oxford-street-actions

    Sky news reporters have been accused of offering some protesters £25 to lob a few bricks so they could get the "breaking news"

    Riot police went all mental in Trafalgar Square after a few of them tried to wade in and arrest one person, and others in the protesters grabbed him back off the police. They beat hundreds of people,probably in revenge for the violent direct action protesters.

    http://blogs.independent.co.uk/2011...quare-kettle-these-are-the-facts-i-was-there/

    Police battering anyone and everyone they could reach really:

    http://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkin...harged-by-police-on-frontline-with-black-bloc

    But they didn't have it all their own way when protesters turned the tables on them:



    The police also lied to 138 members of UK Uncut who had peacefully occupied a floor in a posh shop over the companies illegal tax evasion,bouncing money back and forth, and considering they have charity links, it was interesting. Anyhow, there is video of a chief inspector telling the groupinside they had cleared the street of violent protesters and would allow them to leave safely and without arrest. When the group left the building they were all arrested.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/mar/28/cuts-protest-uk-uncut-fortnum <<< important video

    We still have supporters in the government though:

    http://www.channel4.com/news/labour-mp-backs-anti-cuts-group-after-hundreds-of-arrests

    The government and police are pushing to be allowed to use anti terrorism laws on our own people to stop dissent at an unpopular government. Guess they don't realise we watch films warning us about this sort of thing.

    Charlie Vietch, ex-British Army,warning soldiers not to follow orders to shoot on civilians. Resounding note, as I pleaded with the troops at the Houseguards Museum on the 9th December 2010 not to do the same.



    The Royal Wedding is coming up and police want to ban anyone from London, football hooligan style, they 'believe' are planning violent action at the event, which historically has included simple things like waving an inoffensive flag.

    Arts Against Cuts will need to build a new trojan horse,because someone set fire to the one they brought to Saturday's event.

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    The unfortunate accident with matches:

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    (NB. pics no longer there, will have to find alternatives later, meanwhile, here's some video:)





    One of tomorrow's papers showing the coming loss of liberties:

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    The anti-cuts groups in my city are meeting tomorrow night to talk 'war stories' and plan ahead. We have lost all trust in the police now after this and will tell them as much. We may start protesting every Saturday, all day, banners and flag in every main tourist street here so no one can get a picture without protest material coming up in it. At least that's my suggestion I'm bringing to the table.

    Meanwhile I have a fight in my university. If you have been following the cuts to education,particularly higher education, you'll see virtually all funding has been cut from universities and they are effectively private now, but the government still calls them state, and only allowing them to charge so much, well virtually all uni's are charging the full amount available and the government has to load the students the money up front and they haven't got it!

    My uni was going to try charging a bit less, as they have some nice business interests putting them in a decent financial position. Unfortunately for them I'm going to try and take that business away, because it involves training troops,civil elite and royal families from countries with records of human rights abuses in Military English, that qualifies them to get British military training at one of our bases before they go home to murder civilians. I feel fairly sure they are doing that, because as a student volunteer teaching English, I was asked to take some of them into my workshop and frankly, I am angry that we've had Yemeni and Libyan 'students' in my uni and a whole plethora of 'students' from other countries with bad records. In dialogue with my Vice Chancellor, he refuses to say the words "Military English" and insists those courses are "closed". He also obviously didn't read my letter as spouted complete nonsense as if I was utterly naive. So I'm running a campaign against the uni to get them to stop it, otherwise all our degrees are paid for by blood money.

    Anyhow, we're peaceful protesters,not the smaller other type. Hope you are getting unbiased news on this, but that is doubtful. Try not to believe the party line hysteria, it's getting like China here. We need the worlds biggest cinema to fit everyone in to watch V for Vendetta and then maybe everyone will rise up and kick our government to touch. Have fun trying to watch the Royal Wedding on tv without catching hundreds of thousands of protesters in the edge of the shots:)
     
  2. Tim

    Tim Creative Writer

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    Well, the Royal Wedding (aka Mass Distraction) is over. The majority of the general public here enjoyed themselves.

    A mass party in a park in Glasgow went awry with drunken fighting that the police had to break up. The revellers never cleaned up after themselves either so it was a sea of rubbish. Conscientuous students put an event on facebook for volunteers to turn up with rolls of black bin bags and clean up, but the council workers have done the job overnight it appears. These people......tut tut! When we hold parties we clean up before we left the site, so we could return there or elsewhere in future.

    About 100 activists were arrested ahead of the event on pre-crimes. Facebook dissenting groups and personas were closed down also within that crucial 24hrs before the event.

    Our own event had to be cancelled last minute and we went to a Republic event at a pub right next door to the main police station, so whilst police who'd mysteriously heard of the plans from multiple sources flooded the areas they thought action would take place, milled around looking bored, whilst we laughed and got slightly drunk and enjoyed the pub BBQ within a stones throw of their offices.

    "Breach of the Peace" seems to be the main charge levelled against people. With banning orders to stay away from not only this event, but the Mayday events, in certain locations.

    Shockingly, a party of homosexuals in Soho Square in London were told to move on because "pro-monarchy supporters were moving in" and they'd be charged with Breach of the Peace if they stayed. This is a regression of western laws and human rights. As minorities they had to fight to change the law so they wouldn't get charged and jailed just for being homosexual. Now being anti-monarchists they find themselves a minority once again and criminalised. To take homosexual anti-monarchists and threaten them with arrest and jailing, history should surely inform the security services that they are being wrong. There may be a few court cases coming out of this:



    It appears my brother, the army officer, was right when he told me we only have the illusion of democracy in this country, and when the government tells you to stop what you are doing, you have to or face jail. I thought from my own armed forces service that we were fighting to ensure a democracy for our people. It appears now that if 6,000 people have a moral issue within their midst and only one person has the guts to stand up and state it is wrong, that person must now be found guilty, charged and even jailed. In an age of apathy, a police state can crush civil liberties.

    This is more an observation than a rant. One man can't change things against this apathy. Maybe one day people will wake up here to what is going on. Until then, some of us have to decide whether it would have made an easier like wearing blinkers rather than trying to point out errors.
     
  3. Starbeast from Planet X

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    It's like that here in the U.S. too, but I've known this for quite a while. Time to find another planet to live on so these people in control within many governments can wallow alone in their own filth and riches.
     
  4. Tim

    Tim Creative Writer

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    Just breaking up from uni and one year left, then I do my big tour of the world, teaching a year here, a year there. The need to get away is countered by the fact I'll probably end up in worse places, more corrupt, more unstable!

    At least I've not been arrested yet. I promised my GF I wouldn't go to the last big one in London, so I avoided getting swept up with the UK Uncut protesters, or beaten senseless in Trafalgar Square.

    The issue with the Military English tuition in my uni is still ongoing. We got the local archbishop to write my vice chancellor a letter and he got blanked too. So there's a lot of communication back and forth between my guy and the archbishop right now filling in some holes in the admissions made. I may push to have these people taught in the nearest army base and expand the website to list all the countries they've taught. A lot of research and I find Belize, Guatemala, Slovakia, Georgia and their associated Amnesty International warnings and other reports on lack of human rights.

    If we ever get off this planet, there'll be people trying to trample everyone up there too. It's obviously human nature. Only up there, the accidents will be easier to cover up.
     
  5. Starbeast from Planet X

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    I keep more-and-more looking forward to the afterlife, but who knows, perhaps a big change will come soon to this planet, we could sure use it.
     

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