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I'v gotta agree with Mo on this one now too.
You have no idea what you have done and I feel that you frankly don't care. Then why are you apologizing? Because, as I think is now apparent, you are a selfish person. Your parents and friends have found you out. Now, you want to redeem yourself. Unfortunately, you have with others. Maybe they are blinded by your false personality. I say false because I feel that everything that you have ever posted here or in any other place was a lie. A lie for you to get attention. You say it all started out with a small lie? My God, that "small lie" was telling us all you had cancer and that you were dying. Personally, I don't think that was a small lie. This whole time you thought about yourself. Not many people know this, but two years ago my grandfather died of cancer. He had been suffering for almost 3 years before he passed. I was there when he died. I saw everything that awful disease can do to people. In his last days, he didn't even know who I was!! That was something I would never want to go through again, but I did because of your "small lie". You are a sick, ugly, conniving person. You did things that only a true ***** would do. Yes, you deserved that. I hope you are reading this too. And I hope you are having that gut wrenching feeling that we all had when you died. Thrust the knife in and turn. Of course, as self righteous as you are, you wouldn't care. Some people would say you are "the bad apple". I would have to disagree. You are the worst apple. You are black to the core. The only way that you won't contaminate the rest of us is if we get rid of you. Unhappy trails to you. Please don't visit.Natalie said:My daughter is indeed restricted from internet use, and she will not be allowed to be on the internet again until age 18 (I have supervised her reading your responses to the appology for this time so that she will know the impact of the things that have happened). Other, additional punishment are also in the decision process between my husband and myself. I felt that it would be helpful if I let you know what I have seen in my daughter through all of this.
First, I understand your feelings of anger. I felt it too when I discovered that she had said we (my husband and I) were abusing her. I felt anger and intense betrayal too. I also felt fear. Fear that, though there is not a shred of truth in it, she might be believed. This could have led authorities to remove all four of our children from our home while this was investigated. Though I am pretty sure all would be cleared up - the necessary precaution of removing our children would have been devasting to all, my dear husband, her three brothers (especially our 2 year old who couldn't posibly understand), to my daughter (Natalie/Alias56), and myself. I kmew it was imperative that she make a public confession and appology to eliminate these dangers and to correct the wrong with others that she told the lie to. I then discovered more, the claim of rape, pregnancy, and cancer. I was absolutely shocked and dismayed.
I have come to the place now though, where my anger and feelings of betrayal have subsided. I am feeling a sense of healing and even hope. I am feeling this way because of what I have seen happen in my daughter's life because of all of this. I felt that if you knew about the changes it might help many here come to a place of healing too. I have supervised her reading the posts that have been placed in this thread in response to what she has done. She has cried, been humbled, felt the pain that she has caused. I see her behavior here in the family changing too. Typically, getting in trouble has resulted to her retreating to her room to sulk. This time it is different. She has made the extra effort to help, to be kind, to say she is sorry not only in words but also in tears, and in loving acts of service. If she had means by which to make up for her wrong by doing these things for each of you, I believe she would. I do think her sorrow is genuine.
Her restriction not to use the internet is indeed in place, yet she wanted one more chance to apologize. If you all would please allow me to post for her yet this one last chance to bring healing -
From Alias56/Natalie:
I know you are all very, very upset about this. Lieing is bad enough, but lieing about these sort of things, it just isn't right. I know that now, and you can't even begin to imagine how sorry I am because of all of this. It was wrong of me, and it has hurt so many. Once a lie gets started... You think you can clear it up, maybe with another lie, so you get rid of one but then there's two, one left in the background and then this new one. Then you try to cover that one up, it's an endless curcle.
Some of you have wondered, why I did this. I have no idea. But once one little lie was out, I though that one more could'nt hurt... and then it kept growing into something much biger, till all of this has happend.. A lesson I can't ever forget, and hopefuly, this will stop anyone else out there on the internet from lieing. This should not have happened, I'm surrprised even at myself for doing it, I never really even thought anyone had trusted me, I guess I thought I had nothing to lose. I did though, many did trust me. I know now how valuable that trust was...
I know many will come out of this hateing me, - I deserve it I am sorry even more because the hate will do additional damage to others. I don't want any more hurt to happen to anyone. Iam soory. I know all of you no longer care anything for me, but I do, still care for you and I have and will continue to pray that God heals the damage that I have done.(((((((((I am so sorry!))))))))
I will do my best to say the right and true things from now on. I hope to never do such a thing to anyone, ever again.
I am incredibly sorry... I have learnd my lesson...
~Alias56
I think that was way out of line, Mo ... I know you are angry, but yes, I know how you feel ... and yes, I would High-5 Tommy too ...SydB_JenG said:If I could...I would high five you right now Tommy!! GRR!! Natalie!! You can burn in hell!
I never really even thought anyone had trusted me
i think this topic is teaching her a good lesson. some people(not all) said some things that she needed to hear... and yet another reference to alias... truth hurts. deal with it. you did something wrong accept the consequences. this may seem harsh to some but when you do something bad you have to think of the consequences of your actions.Aliasgirl47 said:She read this entire topic and all our responses to it, and she cried. But then again we cried over her, and well, you know, it was all lies....
Maybe this is good b/c she can realize how bad this is to do and how badly she hurt ppl...
harsh words tommy but very true im sorry that this is happening, is she being banned?Tommy said:You have no idea what you have done and I feel that you frankly don't care. Then why are you apologizing? Because, as I think is now apparent, you are a selfish person. Your parents and friends have found you out. Now, you want to redeem yourself. Unfortunately, you have with others. Maybe they are blinded by your false personality. I say false because I feel that everything that you have ever posted here or in any other place was a lie. A lie for you to get attention. You say it all started out with a small lie? My God, that "small lie" was telling us all you had cancer and that you were dying. Personally, I don't think that was a small lie. This whole time you thought about yourself. Not many people know this, but two years ago my grandfather died of cancer. He had been suffering for almost 3 years before he passed. I was there when he died. I saw everything that awful disease can do to people. In his last days, he didn't even know who I was!! That was something I would never want to go through again, but I did because of your "small lie". You are a sick, ugly, conniving person. You did things that only a true ***** would do. Yes, you deserved that. I hope you are reading this too. And I hope you are having that gut wrenching feeling that we all had when you died. Thrust the knife in and turn. Of course, as self righteous as you are, you wouldn't care. Some people would say you are "the bad apple". I would have to disagree. You are the worst apple. You are black to the core. The only way that you won't contaminate the rest of us is if we get rid of you. Unhappy trails to you. Please don't visit.Natalie said:My daughter is indeed restricted from internet use, and she will not be allowed to be on the internet again until age 18 (I have supervised her reading your responses to the appology for this time so that she will know the impact of the things that have happened). Other, additional punishment are also in the decision process between my husband and myself. I felt that it would be helpful if I let you know what I have seen in my daughter through all of this.
First, I understand your feelings of anger. I felt it too when I discovered that she had said we (my husband and I) were abusing her. I felt anger and intense betrayal too. I also felt fear. Fear that, though there is not a shred of truth in it, she might be believed. This could have led authorities to remove all four of our children from our home while this was investigated. Though I am pretty sure all would be cleared up - the necessary precaution of removing our children would have been devasting to all, my dear husband, her three brothers (especially our 2 year old who couldn't posibly understand), to my daughter (Natalie/Alias56), and myself. I kmew it was imperative that she make a public confession and appology to eliminate these dangers and to correct the wrong with others that she told the lie to. I then discovered more, the claim of rape, pregnancy, and cancer. I was absolutely shocked and dismayed.
I have come to the place now though, where my anger and feelings of betrayal have subsided. I am feeling a sense of healing and even hope. I am feeling this way because of what I have seen happen in my daughter's life because of all of this. I felt that if you knew about the changes it might help many here come to a place of healing too. I have supervised her reading the posts that have been placed in this thread in response to what she has done. She has cried, been humbled, felt the pain that she has caused. I see her behavior here in the family changing too. Typically, getting in trouble has resulted to her retreating to her room to sulk. This time it is different. She has made the extra effort to help, to be kind, to say she is sorry not only in words but also in tears, and in loving acts of service. If she had means by which to make up for her wrong by doing these things for each of you, I believe she would. I do think her sorrow is genuine.
Her restriction not to use the internet is indeed in place, yet she wanted one more chance to apologize. If you all would please allow me to post for her yet this one last chance to bring healing -
From Alias56/Natalie:
I know you are all very, very upset about this. Lieing is bad enough, but lieing about these sort of things, it just isn't right. I know that now, and you can't even begin to imagine how sorry I am because of all of this. It was wrong of me, and it has hurt so many. Once a lie gets started... You think you can clear it up, maybe with another lie, so you get rid of one but then there's two, one left in the background and then this new one. Then you try to cover that one up, it's an endless curcle.
Some of you have wondered, why I did this. I have no idea. But once one little lie was out, I though that one more could'nt hurt... and then it kept growing into something much biger, till all of this has happend.. A lesson I can't ever forget, and hopefuly, this will stop anyone else out there on the internet from lieing. This should not have happened, I'm surrprised even at myself for doing it, I never really even thought anyone had trusted me, I guess I thought I had nothing to lose. I did though, many did trust me. I know now how valuable that trust was...
I know many will come out of this hateing me, - I deserve it I am sorry even more because the hate will do additional damage to others. I don't want any more hurt to happen to anyone. Iam soory. I know all of you no longer care anything for me, but I do, still care for you and I have and will continue to pray that God heals the damage that I have done.(((((((((I am so sorry!))))))))
I will do my best to say the right and true things from now on. I hope to never do such a thing to anyone, ever again.
I am incredibly sorry... I have learnd my lesson...
~Alias56
Yes, yes they are, but you need to remember, she did very harsh things.GO Syd said:harsh words tommy but very true im sorry that this is happening, is she being banned?Tommy said:You have no idea what you have done and I feel that you frankly don't care. Then why are you apologizing? Because, as I think is now apparent, you are a selfish person. Your parents and friends have found you out. Now, you want to redeem yourself. Unfortunately, you have with others. Maybe they are blinded by your false personality. I say false because I feel that everything that you have ever posted here or in any other place was a lie. A lie for you to get attention. You say it all started out with a small lie? My God, that "small lie" was telling us all you had cancer and that you were dying. Personally, I don't think that was a small lie. This whole time you thought about yourself. Not many people know this, but two years ago my grandfather died of cancer. He had been suffering for almost 3 years before he passed. I was there when he died. I saw everything that awful disease can do to people. In his last days, he didn't even know who I was!! That was something I would never want to go through again, but I did because of your "small lie". You are a sick, ugly, conniving person. You did things that only a true ***** would do. Yes, you deserved that. I hope you are reading this too. And I hope you are having that gut wrenching feeling that we all had when you died. Thrust the knife in and turn. Of course, as self righteous as you are, you wouldn't care. Some people would say you are "the bad apple". I would have to disagree. You are the worst apple. You are black to the core. The only way that you won't contaminate the rest of us is if we get rid of you. Unhappy trails to you. Please don't visit.Natalie said:My daughter is indeed restricted from internet use, and she will not be allowed to be on the internet again until age 18 (I have supervised her reading your responses to the appology for this time so that she will know the impact of the things that have happened). Other, additional punishment are also in the decision process between my husband and myself. I felt that it would be helpful if I let you know what I have seen in my daughter through all of this.
First, I understand your feelings of anger. I felt it too when I discovered that she had said we (my husband and I) were abusing her. I felt anger and intense betrayal too. I also felt fear. Fear that, though there is not a shred of truth in it, she might be believed. This could have led authorities to remove all four of our children from our home while this was investigated. Though I am pretty sure all would be cleared up - the necessary precaution of removing our children would have been devasting to all, my dear husband, her three brothers (especially our 2 year old who couldn't posibly understand), to my daughter (Natalie/Alias56), and myself. I kmew it was imperative that she make a public confession and appology to eliminate these dangers and to correct the wrong with others that she told the lie to. I then discovered more, the claim of rape, pregnancy, and cancer. I was absolutely shocked and dismayed.
I have come to the place now though, where my anger and feelings of betrayal have subsided. I am feeling a sense of healing and even hope. I am feeling this way because of what I have seen happen in my daughter's life because of all of this. I felt that if you knew about the changes it might help many here come to a place of healing too. I have supervised her reading the posts that have been placed in this thread in response to what she has done. She has cried, been humbled, felt the pain that she has caused. I see her behavior here in the family changing too. Typically, getting in trouble has resulted to her retreating to her room to sulk. This time it is different. She has made the extra effort to help, to be kind, to say she is sorry not only in words but also in tears, and in loving acts of service. If she had means by which to make up for her wrong by doing these things for each of you, I believe she would. I do think her sorrow is genuine.
Her restriction not to use the internet is indeed in place, yet she wanted one more chance to apologize. If you all would please allow me to post for her yet this one last chance to bring healing -
From Alias56/Natalie:
I know you are all very, very upset about this. Lieing is bad enough, but lieing about these sort of things, it just isn't right. I know that now, and you can't even begin to imagine how sorry I am because of all of this. It was wrong of me, and it has hurt so many. Once a lie gets started... You think you can clear it up, maybe with another lie, so you get rid of one but then there's two, one left in the background and then this new one. Then you try to cover that one up, it's an endless curcle.
Some of you have wondered, why I did this. I have no idea. But once one little lie was out, I though that one more could'nt hurt... and then it kept growing into something much biger, till all of this has happend.. A lesson I can't ever forget, and hopefuly, this will stop anyone else out there on the internet from lieing. This should not have happened, I'm surrprised even at myself for doing it, I never really even thought anyone had trusted me, I guess I thought I had nothing to lose. I did though, many did trust me. I know now how valuable that trust was...
I know many will come out of this hateing me, - I deserve it I am sorry even more because the hate will do additional damage to others. I don't want any more hurt to happen to anyone. Iam soory. I know all of you no longer care anything for me, but I do, still care for you and I have and will continue to pray that God heals the damage that I have done.(((((((((I am so sorry!))))))))
I will do my best to say the right and true things from now on. I hope to never do such a thing to anyone, ever again.
I am incredibly sorry... I have learnd my lesson...
~Alias56
(Tommy @ May 13 2003, 05:46 PM)
You have no idea what you have done and I feel that you frankly don't care. Then why are you apologizing? Because, as I think is now apparent, you are a selfish person. Your parents and friends have found you out. Now, you want to redeem yourself. Unfortunately, you have with others. Maybe they are blinded by your false personality. I say false because I feel that everything that you have ever posted here or in any other place was a lie. A lie for you to get attention. You say it all started out with a small lie? My God, that "small lie" was telling us all you had cancer and that you were dying. Personally, I don't think that was a small lie. This whole time you thought about yourself. Not many people know this, but two years ago my grandfather died of cancer. He had been suffering for almost 3 years before he passed. I was there when he died. I saw everything that awful disease can do to people. In his last days, he didn't even know who I was!! That was something I would never want to go through again, but I did because of your "small lie". You are a sick, ugly, conniving person. You did things that only a true ***** would do. Yes, you deserved that. I hope you are reading this too. And I hope you are having that gut wrenching feeling that we all had when you died. Thrust the knife in and turn. Of course, as self righteous as you are, you wouldn't care. Some people would say you are "the bad apple". I would have to disagree. You are the worst apple. You are black to the core. The only way that you won't contaminate the rest of us is if we get rid of you. Unhappy trails to you. Please don't visit.
Out of Line??? Out of Line???? Are you kidding ME!! I am not out of line...someone on here (i wont say their name) wanted to kill themselves that day she died!! AND NOW WE FIND OUT SHE HIRED SOMEONE TO DO THAT!! Why the hell would she do that!! Its sick and twisted...And I would consider her a murder if that certain someone had killed themselves...burning in hell is the least of what she should have to go through...combine all the pain of everyone on here...she will NEVER feel what all of us have felt! I am Not out of Line!! In fact I don't think burning in hell is enough! Natalie almost cost someone their life...OVER A FREAKING PUBLICITY STUNT!! I will never forgive her...NEVER!...she can never be sorry enough...shes sorry because she was caught...if she had never been caught she would never have been sorry...so i say it once again...burn in Hell Natalie...BURN!Alias_Gay said:I think that was way out of line, Mo ... I know you are angry, but yes, I know how you feel ... and yes, I would High-5 Tommy too ...SydB_JenG said:If I could...I would high five you right now Tommy!! GRR!! Natalie!! You can burn in hell!
amen to that! i really dont think you are sorry at all. If you hadnt been discovered, this would have kept going. How far would you have gone? I dont think you realize the impact of what you did, i really dont. You sent me a PM telling me that you were going to kill yourself. That you just wanted to say goodbye. Do you have ANY idea how hard that was? And how frustrating, to think that your friend was about to kill herself and not able to do anything?!? And none of it was true...SydB_JenG said:If I could...I would high five you right now Tommy!! GRR!! Natalie!! You can burn in hell!