ms.katejones
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AliasHombre said:
If it safeguards society, then why does the US have a higher murder rate than countries without the death penalty?
If it safeguards society, then why does the US have a higher murder rate than countries without the death penalty?
AliasHombre said:
I totally disagree, under no circumstances can we justify killing anyone , even if they have killed thousands, if we kill them we will be just as bad as them.
In fact I am so strongly against the death penalty that if someone was about to kill me and I had to kill them or die I would die, as I couldnt live with myself for killing someone else. No matter how justifiable. I am not religious, but I do think that we shouldnt sentence people to death, we all do things wrong, it is not our decision.
people do terrible things, lets not make ourselves one of them by creating a terrible thing.
so there!!! lol
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Because more people do it, but those who are executed don't have the chance to hurt society again.ms.katejones said:
ms.katejones
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UncoveringAlias said:
I just meant that the death penalty doesn't make society any safer, not that it causes more crime. If it kept us safer, you would think there would be fewer murders, but that isn't the case.
No, it alludes to the fact that clearly other countries have better ways of dealing with things.
Like I said before, I don't understand how anyone can justify the death penalty. The US is the last Western country to abolish it. Obviously other people have found a better way, and don't have murderers running around the streets.
UncoveringAlias said:
no that is not the case, its not a good way to deal with murderers, I base my morals on reform not punishment. We are m=not one to judge another person. Nothing justifys taking a life you are making yourself as bad as that person (well maybe not as bad but bringing your self down to their lever)
nothing justifies murder. full stop.
And I am not religious, it's just my belief. :angry:
AliasHombre
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"To each his own" is a direct quote from the Communist Manifesto. Where does it belong in American policy?UncoveringAlias said:
tippinlover
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Wow, I can't believe I've never seen this thread...interesting conversation going on here...
Anyway, I just recently, within the past year, changed my mind on this subject and I'm against the death penalty, but probably not for the more traditional reason. I have no problem with the idea of a death penalthy if our legal system was infallible, which it's not, btw...there's nothing scarier to me that killing an individual, and then finding out 5 years later that they didn't even commit the crime...
I also don't believe that it has any deterrent utility at all; I know that some people think that it does, but I think it's purely punitive...it's the idea of taking their life b/c they took someone else's. Again, I think that's right and fair if we had a system where we knew in each case that 100% of the time we were correct...unfortunately, our criminal system still has too many kinks in it for me to support the death penalty...
Anyway, I just recently, within the past year, changed my mind on this subject and I'm against the death penalty, but probably not for the more traditional reason. I have no problem with the idea of a death penalthy if our legal system was infallible, which it's not, btw...there's nothing scarier to me that killing an individual, and then finding out 5 years later that they didn't even commit the crime...
I also don't believe that it has any deterrent utility at all; I know that some people think that it does, but I think it's purely punitive...it's the idea of taking their life b/c they took someone else's. Again, I think that's right and fair if we had a system where we knew in each case that 100% of the time we were correct...unfortunately, our criminal system still has too many kinks in it for me to support the death penalty...
Agent Verdi
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^That's exactly how I feel about it.
Existentialist
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tippinlover said:
Well said! That's what I think.
Especially with the amount of people being forced into confessing to crimes they didn't commit...
the_alliance
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anyone wanna join the "No Death Penalty for Scott Peterson" Club?
Aliasfan13
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I think that if a life has been taken away, someone should pay the price.
Itz tha Dreila
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yea unfortunately it happens -_-Existentialist said:
